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SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning

 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

Probably everyone knows about this but me, but since I just fried my
oil-soaked SkyTec starter on my GlaStar, I was perusing their web pages and
found this:

http://www.skytecair.com/Wiring_diag.htm

Scroll down to the RV-10 wiring warning. If the shoe fits...

John Jessen
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

No I did not know this does anyone know if Vans updated there plans as mine
show to remove the jumper which will make it 24 volts!.

regards Chris

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the new diagram is correct. As always you should review the instructions from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know they will always fall back on what the manufacturer says.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

Mine wasn't from Van's, but it was recommended to me to go
with the HT.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I
believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the
new diagram is correct. As always you should review the instructions
from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know they will
always fall back on what the manufacturer says.

Michael



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

You don't get a Starter in the Van's FWF Kit.

Thank You
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

The starter isn't part of the FWF. It's part of the engine. I don't
know which one is included with which engine, but that depends on
where you buy your engine, I imagine. The alternator is included in
the FWF, and it is currently the Plane Power 60A.

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On Apr 18, 2008, at 10:20 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then
I believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then
the new diagram is correct. As always you should review the
instructions from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know
they will always fall back on what the manufacturer says.

Michael

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

IF you have a prop/blade 'kick-back' the lightweight starter (LS) will
fail. (It's happened to many). The Hi Torque starter was designed to
eliminate that problem. Initially my engine had the LS but I upgraded it
to the Hi Torque upon learning about the kickback issue. when you order
your engine you should speficy the Hi Torque. (NL) starter.

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Tim Olson wrote:
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Mine wasn't from Van's, but it was recommended to me to go
with the HT.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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> <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>
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> Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I
> believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the
> new diagram is correct. As always you should review the instructions
> from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know they will
> always fall back on what the manufacturer says.
>
> Michael



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

I wasn't sure anymore what came with the FWF kit as I deleted so many things from it and added a couple like the PP alternator which wasn't standard yet then.

One thing to note, if you end up with an LS there is a good chance Skytec will swap it for you for the difference assuming it's still NIB. If not you can probably sell it on eBay fairly easily considering how often the LS get mangled. The NL is definitely preferred for our engines nowadays.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

If you should shear the shearpin from kickback on the HT model, Skytec has placed a spare in RTV in the recess on top of the starter. A pretty easy fix away from home.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning Reply with quote

Ok, I've got a dog in this fight since I just ordered an IO-540 from Van's as part of their promotion.

The Van's Lycoming engine comes with the LS starter on the crated engine. Since it's part of the OEM contract with Van's, it can't be changed. If you're ordering from an after market builder, you can specify the NL.

I then spoke to the tech at Sky-Tech. The LS has a higher current draw than the NL and may not turn over the engine IF you've done a shoddy wiring job. The NL is recommended for that reason.

As to kickback, that can happen depending on settings of a magneto. In my case, I plan to go with PMags for both. Skytech advised that they worked specifically with the PMag system guys to ensure that a kickback won't happen.

Bottom line-Skytech changed the recommendation from LS to NL based on several engines having slow turnover due to restrictive wiring or low battery power.

So I'll stay with the LS unless I do have a problem. If I was starting from scratch on the engine, I'd get the NL.

Tom H.
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