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craigk391(at)sbcglobal.ne
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 Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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Nope. Corporation selling their 2 planes.
MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala(at)msn.com> wrote:[quote] .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } ck, please tell me you did not buy it from a "aircraft broker" in TN? gmc
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From: craigk391(at)sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Blast from the past...
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Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft(at)aol.com> wrote: [quote] | Quote: | Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if I wanted  |
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
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kamala(at)MSN.COM
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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c, i am in fort worth, tx. if I can be of any help to you or your plane let me know. mason 680Fp.
[quote] Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:50:15 -0700
From: craigk391(at)sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: Blast from the past...
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Nope. Corporation selling their 2 planes.
MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala(at)msn.com> wrote: | Quote: | .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} ck, please tell me you did not buy it from a "aircraft broker" in TN? gmc
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From: craigk391(at)sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Blast from the past...
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft(at)aol.com> wrote: | Quote: | | Quote: | | Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if I wanted |
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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rcdettmer(at)charter.net
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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Two engines making metal…wow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F. Both engines were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts of oil out the breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual), with one engine throwing a rod in flight, and the other making huge amounts of metal. Had to overhaul both engines. I would be very interested to know what caused both your engines to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
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Dettmer Architecture
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805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
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From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft(at)aol.com> wrote: | Quote: |
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if I wanted |
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
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craigk391(at)sbcglobal.ne
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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7 years of sitting, with I suspect a number of broken rings given the corrosion inside the cracks.
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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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Randy-
You up and flying again yet?
Robert S. Randazzo
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Blast from the past...
Two engines making metal…wow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F. Both engines were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts of oil out the breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual), with one engine throwing a rod in flight, and the other making huge amounts of metal. Had to overhaul both engines. I would be very interested to know what caused both your engines to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
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Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft(at)aol.com> wrote: | Quote: |
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if I wanted |
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
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rcdettmer(at)charter.net
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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Had to get new propellers (as well as new engines) so, not flying yet. JPI engine analyzer being installed now, along with many other replaced items (vacuum pumps, generator, hoses, etc). Hopefully, we’ll be flying in another 3 weeks.
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Dettmer Architecture
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San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:01 PM
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Randy-
You up and flying again yet?
Robert S. Randazzo
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Blast from the past...
Two engines making metal…wow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F. Both engines were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts of oil out the breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual), with one engine throwing a rod in flight, and the other making huge amounts of metal. Had to overhaul both engines. I would be very interested to know what caused both your engines to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
[img]cid:image001.gif(at)01C8A177.79D40F60[/img]
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft(at)aol.com> wrote: | Quote: |
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if I wanted |
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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Randy (and others),
When replacing the hoses be sure to replace the most important one on the plane. This would be the hose that goes to the Hyd. Pressure gage[img]cid:F6D0E13C69D8478AAB112AC9E939C59D(at)moemills1[/img]inside the plane. When I first purchased N680RR my former mechanic was to change all of the hoses on the plane, however, he did not replace that hose. Sometime, later it broke which ruined my favorite cowboy boots, my girlfriend's purse, the carpet, and a large part of the interior including the leather on some seats. Surprising how much damage five gallons of Skydrol can do to the inside of a plane.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680Fp
From: Randy Dettmer, AIA (rcdettmer(at)charter.net)
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:13 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Blast from the past...
Had to get new propellers (as well as new engines) so, not flying yet. JPI engine analyzer being installed now, along with many other replaced items (vacuum pumps, generator, hoses, etc). Hopefully, we’ll be flying in another 3 weeks.
[img]cid:90C1A16431E140F0810BADBE79FDA812(at)moemills1[/img]
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. Randazzo
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:01 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Blast from the past...
Randy-
You up and flying again yet?
Robert S. Randazzo
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Blast from the past...
Two engines making metal…wow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F. Both engines were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts of oil out the breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual), with one engine throwing a rod in flight, and the other making huge amounts of metal. Had to overhaul both engines. I would be very interested to know what caused both your engines to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
[img]cid:90C1A16431E140F0810BADBE79FDA812(at)moemills1[/img]
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft(at)aol.com> wrote: | Quote: |
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if I wanted |
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
Get the MapQuest Toolbar, Maps, Traffic, Directions & More!
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:55 am Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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gmosh(at)charter.net
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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Barry,
I own serial # 173, a 1954 model straight 560. The logs show it flying out of New York I believe. I found a small patch of fabric stuck to one of the re-upholstered seats - black and white with turquoise and some black leather. It's been repainted but I did find some robins egg blue in spots where the repaint peeled.
I'd appreciate any history you might have on this bird?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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Steve, I have an Aztec and have owned it for 10 years. Really a great airplane. I also own a 680 as well. Love em both. Gil
Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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I still have the Apache 150’s that I got my multi rating in. It is a vintage 1957 and it is a blast to fly. It serves as a spare for when the 500S is in service. My wife especially likes the Apache because the “tube” is an excellent “OH-SHIT” handle as she is not the most avid flyer. The tube is a carry over from the preceding tube and fabric structure.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Blast from the past... |
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dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net wrote:
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I still have the Apache 150’s that I got my multi rating in. It is a
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There really should be a PA23 club, but there never will be. Near as I
can tell, an apache is like a fat girl. Almost everyone has had a great
experience with one in the past, but nobody is willing to admit it.
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