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btucke73(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

Gents,



     Did Zenith send you a bill of sale for each

subkit purchased?  I can't find mine in my bundle O'

paperwork.  Did those of you who have completed

registration get the bill of sale later from ZAC?



Thanks,



Brandon



Starting registration paperwork

btucke73(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

Gents,



     Did Zenith send you a bill of sale for each

subkit purchased?  I can't find mine in my bundle O'

paperwork.  Did those of you who have completed

registration get the bill of sale later from ZAC?



Thanks,



Brandon



Starting registration paperwork

stshuck(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

No they didn't send it to me until I requested it yesterday. I didn't 

realize that the FAA requires it in order to register the aircraft.

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Rick Roberts

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 28
Location: Orlando, FL

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

This DVD will take all the guess work out of registering your plane:

  http://www.homebuilthelp.com/licensing.htm

   

Rick

Orlando, FL. USA

http://www.n701rr.com

_________________
Low & Slow,
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
www.n701rr.com

clojan(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

Steve: I am a little disappointed with Zac for not including a bill of sale with the kit. They know that you will need it to register but they remain tight lipped on the matter until asked.This has probably delayed our first flight another month.  Jack in Los osos ca 



Steve Shuck <stshuck(at)comcast.net> wrote:  



No they didn't send it to me until I requested it yesterday. I didn't 

realize that the FAA requires it in order to register the aircraft.

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

So what does a scratch builder do for a bill of sale? And how does the FAA

know if you are a scratch or kit builder?



-- Craig 



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601zv(at)ritternet.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: Bill of sale

Prepare a Bill of Sale from you to yourself for all the components you have 

purchased from various sources?

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Bill of sale

 	  craig(at)craigandjean.com wrote: 	
		  So what does a scratch builder do for a bill of sale? And how does the FAA

know if you are a scratch or kit builder?



-- Craig 



-- 	




Write your own. And they will know from your construction log and photos.

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

shilocom(at)mcmsys.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: Bill of sale

You declare on the application whether you are a kit builder or "built from Parts".

 If you are a kit builder, a homemade bill of sale won't work, and if you are

Not the original builder you have to prove who all the owners were for Exp Amateur

built catagory.  Bob U. 



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craig(at)craigandjean.com wrote:

> So what does a scratch builder do for a bill of sale? And how does the FAA


	


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		  > know if you are a scratch or kit builder?

> 

> -- Craig 

> 

> --

Right your own and they will know from your construction log and photos.



--------

W.R. Gig Giacona

601XL Under Construction

See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR





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steveadams

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 191

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Bill of sale

This really baffled me as well. When I was ready to register my plane, I called them up and asked for a bill of sale. All the way up to M Hientz I got the same "we've never heard of this before" and "we only sold you a kit, not an airplane, so we can't give you a bill of sale." After sending them the FAA documentation showing that I needed it, they finally sent me one. That was a year ago, and it sounds like they're still playing the same game.

davgray(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

They sent mine upon request last June without any hassle.

ding(at)tbscc.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

Listers,

                Once you register your aircraft with the FAA, they will send

notification of this to your state Department of Revenue. At this time you

will get a letter, and will need receipts of expenditures in the

construction of your plane, and will be expected to submit applicable state

taxes on all items on which you haven't already paid state sales tax. In the

case of a scratch- built plane, this is materials used in construction.  It

is somewhat of an honor system, but very small materials lists may require

an explanation.  I went through this on a previous plans built plane, and

had been very resourceful in obtaining free, cheap, and local parts (meaning

already taxed), and PA Dept. of Revenue accepted my explanation and a check

for what they had coming. (I'm TRYING to be civil in use of this wording!!)

                                                            Lynn

                                                            Corry, PA

mike.sinclair(at)ATT.NET
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

I don't know how you can be very civil. The bloodsuckers at the Kansas Dept. of

Revenue, when they found out I built an airplane, sent me a sales tax bill, and

then charged me over 50% penalty besides for the 5 year build time from kit

purchase to registration. I know the old line about "ignorance of the law is no

excuse", but I was unaware that I needed to pay a sales tax on this to Kansas.

And part of where I screwed up was buying the full kit all at once, including

engine. I really have a hard time believing Dorothy & Toto wanted to come back

here sometimes. And I grew up in this state. Look out, our honorable gov.

Sebelius is looking at a run for president. And what she's done for Kansas, she

would do to the US.



Mike

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lynn dingfelder wrote:



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 Listers,

                 Once you register your aircraft with the FAA, they will send

 notification of this to your state Department of Revenue. At this time you

 will get a letter, and will need receipts of expenditures in the

 construction of your plane, and will be expected to submit applicable state

 taxes on all items on which you haven't already paid state sales tax. In the

 case of a scratch- built plane, this is materials used in construction.  It

 is somewhat of an honor system, but very small materials lists may require

 an explanation.  I went through this on a previous plans built plane, and

 had been very resourceful in obtaining free, cheap, and local parts (meaning

 already taxed), and PA Dept. of Revenue accepted my explanation and a check

 for what they had coming. (I'm TRYING to be civil in use of this wording!!)

                                                             Lynn

                                                             Corry, PA

Sigmo(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

I used the same documentation that I used for the State Tax people. I  

followed the FAA's instructions and itemized the kit sub assembly purchases and  

included the bill of sale for each part.

It took three letters to FAA but it resulted in a registration. Contact me  

at my E-mail if you would like copies of the documentation I sent.

 

Mike Sigman

N7092N 601XL

 

Do not archive

Crvsecretary(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

Here in Connecticut we have a state income tax AND a sales tax. If  purchases 

are made from out of state the sales tax then becomes a USE tax and  the 

items should be listed as an add-on to the state income tax filed every  year.  

So, when I purchase a kit component, I declare it on my income tax  filing and 

the tax is paid.

 

My accountant thinks I'm nutz, but I tell him it's a must to  register this 

thing once it is finally built.

 

Tracy Smith

Naugatuck, CT

N458XL (reserved)

Do Not Archive

 

 

In a message dated 3/2/2006 6:44:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,  

mike.sinclair(at)ATT.NET writes:






I don't know how you can be very civil.  The bloodsuckers at the Kansas Dept. 

of

Revenue, when they found out I  built an airplane, sent me a sales tax bill, 

and

then charged me over 50%  penalty besides for the 5 year build time from kit

purchase to  registration. I know the old line about "ignorance of the law is 

 no

excuse", but I was unaware that I needed to pay a sales tax on this to  

Kansas.

And part of where I screwed up was buying the full kit all at once,  including

engine. I really have a hard time believing Dorothy & Toto  wanted to come 

back

here sometimes. And I grew up in this state. Look out,  our honorable gov.

Sebelius is looking at a run for president. And what  she's done for Kansas, 

she

would do to the US.



Mike

Do Not  Archive



lynn dingfelder wrote:



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		   --> Zenith-List message  posted by: "lynn dingfelder" <ding(at)tbscc.com>



  Listers,

                  Once you register your aircraft with the FAA, they will 

send
	


 	  Quote: 	
		    notification of this to your state Department of Revenue. At this time  you

 will get a letter, and will need receipts of expenditures in  the

 construction of your plane, and will be expected to submit  applicable state

 taxes on all items on which you haven't already paid  state sales tax. In 

the
	


 	  Quote: 	
		   case of a scratch- built plane, this is  materials used in construction.  It

 is somewhat of an honor  system, but very small materials lists may require

 an  explanation.  I went through this on a previous plans built plane,  and

 had been very resourceful in obtaining free, cheap, and local  parts 

(meaning
	


 	  Quote: 	
		   already taxed), and PA Dept. of Revenue accepted my  explanation and a check

 for what they had coming. (I'm TRYING to be  civil in use of this wording!!)

             Lynn

             Corry, PA

archermj(at)swbell.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

Mike,   I am in Kansas also.  I called the Kansas Dpt of Rev and asked what 

I needed to-do about sales tax and was met with a blank stare(over the 

Phone).  They didn't know what I was talking about.  Who did you contact?



I agree about Sebelius



Matt

www.zodiacxl.com

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mhilderbrand(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: Bill of sale

 	  Quote: 	
		   Tell them when you do your tax return. I played stupid on my other plane and did not claim it. I flew for 2 years before I got the letter in the mail from the KS dept of revenue wanting an invoice for my aircraft (this just happened about 3months ago). I sent them my invoice right away and they did not charge me a penalty. 

Now, I still haven't paid personal property taxes. I am sure I will get something soon. 
	


mike

[quote] From: "Matt & Jo" <archermj(at)swbell.net>

 Date: 2006/03/02 Thu PM 07:33:45 EST

 To: <zenith-list(at)matronics.com>

 Subject: Re: Re: Bill of sale

 

 

 

 Mike,   I am in Kansas also.  I called the Kansas Dpt of Rev and asked what 

 I needed to-do about sales tax and was met with a blank stare(over the 

 Phone).  They didn't know what I was talking about.  Who did you contact?

 

 I agree about Sebelius

 

 Matt

 www.zodiacxl.com

 

 

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