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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

Well, Bob - you tried.  Or, more likely - you fell for it again.  



Somewhere out there in the vastness of the 'net, there probably exists a discussion (tirade) group for engineers with borderline personality disorder.  He'll find his way "home," I'm sure.

 

Your core constituency may have dropped from 1,500 interested readers/contributors to 1,499 this weekend - but I doubt it's dropped any more than that.



Carry on, sir.  Keep us posted.  Don't fret about what's transpired.

 

-Bill B





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nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

At 12:58 PM 7/13/2008 -0700, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Hi Bob

I have been trying to follow this thread with little luck, mainly because 

I got in late and I don't have time for it.  But, that said I want to say 

there are a lot of Glasairs other than my own that swear by your info and 

are flying your systems.  My Glll has the dual bat dual alternator system 

and has run perfectly for 4 yrs.  Others I know, the same.  Keep up the 

good work

Jim Robinson

Glll  N79R


	


   Don't worry about it my friend. It's difficult for me

   to follow . . . and even when I've tried to direct it by

   requesting answers to specific questions, enlightenment

   was not forthcoming.



   I'm pleased that you're enjoying your airplane!



   Bob . . .

jon(at)finleyweb.net
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

But this post is breaking my comment not to post again.



	Bummer.  Please try harder next time.


<nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net>

I'll ask it again Paul . . . please go away.



	YIPPEE!!!  Good show!!



	I can't believe I fell for it AGAIN!!!  I actually thought Paul was going

to deliver something useful but he proved he is just the same as he was ten

years ago.  Wish he would stop changing his email address - makes it tough

for my spam filters to catch his messages.



Jon

DO NOT ARCHIVE

nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

At 02:57 PM 7/13/2008 -0400, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Well, Bob - you tried.  Or, more likely - you fell for it again.



Somewhere out there in the vastness of the 'net, there probably exists a 

discussion (tirade) group for engineers with borderline personality 

disorder.  He'll find his way "home," I'm sure.



Your core constituency may have dropped from 1,500 interested 

readers/contributors to 1,499 this weekend - but I doubt it's dropped any 

more than that.



Carry on, sir.  Keep us posted.  Don't fret about what's transpired.


	


   Not a problem my friend. I was advised by a wise

   teacher some years ago that such encounters are not

   worth emotional capital. I know more about me than

   anybody. If someone points a finger with an allegation,

   I'm the first to know if its validity. If valid then

   I fix it. If specious then ignore it. Expending

   emotional capital on being offended, or angry in such

   instances is a voluntary abrogation of liberty to

   the tormentor.



   Honorable people go out of their way to protect the

   liberty of themselves and others. Hence, giving vexatious

   persons more than passing notice is in itself a dishonorable

   thing to do. I am obligated to explore the potential

   for advancing our knowledge but nothing more.



   Bob . . .

rob(at)hyperion-ef.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

First, please learn how to use a spell checker.



Second, your URL is obviously spelled wrong - it should be mtMIND.com



Third, neither you nor gmcjetpilot would recognize real research if it bit

you in the butt.



Finally, why don't you and your gmcjetpilot friend start you own raving

forum and spare the rest of from your diatribes.

Best regards,



Rob Housman

Irvine, CA 

Europa XS Tri-Gear

A070

Airframe complete



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nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

At 10:38 AM 7/16/2008 -0700, you wrote:




First, please learn how to use a spell checker.



Second, your URL is obviously spelled wrong - it should be mtMIND.com



Third, neither you nor gmcjetpilot would recognize real research if it bit

you in the butt.



Finally, why don't you and your gmcjetpilot friend start you own raving

forum and spare the rest of from your diatribes.

    Gently my friend. We cannot expect morale to improve

    by meting out more vigorous beatings. It's time to

    recognize these folks limitations and be saddened by

    the fact that they cannot enjoy (through no fault of their

    own) the pleasures we all get from finding things out

    and using them to make our jobs easier and lives better.



    I'll suggest we "spin down" attention to these guys and get

    on with the important stuff. Zach is over today taking

    a day off from his 'other' job. We're starting to strip

    down the drive stand. I'm going up in the attic over the

    garage and bring down the 240 line I extended out there

    last winter.



    Bob . . .

rob(at)hyperion-ef.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

OK, point taken.

Best regards,



Rob Housman

Irvine, CA 

Europa XS Tri-Gear

A070

Airframe complete

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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

HA! Best laugh I've had all week!  Reminds me of elementary school "my dad can beat up your dad".  I prefer lead by example.



Do not archive this useless information



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gmcjetpilot

Joined: 04 Nov 2006
Posts: 170

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

Dear Mr Rob Housman

   

  First of all I have not posted anything on ND alternators 

in months and months.

 

I don't know what your problem is or what I did to offend 

you, but I do know facts from rhetoric, propaganda and 

hyperbole when I hear it.

 

In spent at least a 100 hours tracking alternator "stories" 

down. I found some genuine failures but nothing to back 

up the grossly exaggerated stories told on this list in the 

past. I called several alternator distributors, 

manufactures - OEM and aftermarket, asking dozens of 

questions. I have offered to analyse anyone failed 

internal regulator (with x-ray & real failure analysis by a 

major manufacture who works with me). That is 

proactive research, not a bunch of personal spewing.

  

I did not take the time and effort to be right or win; 

I did it for the joy of learning, knowledge and hope to help 

others. I  have no wish to steal anyone's thunder or gain 

fame or fortune, just help others build a better plane for 

less effort, money with same or better results. 

   

  If you want to hate on me fine, but that is sad for you.

 

I am not convinced 1970's technology is the best we 

can do, while relying on shorting out CB's for band-aid 

protection, while internally regulated alternators can be 

made even better than they already are. Sorry, but 

thinking of better ways to do things is not bad or a 

personal affront on Bob or anyone else. Electronics have 

come a long way since externally regulated alternators

where in vogue.

  

I got tired of hearing from people like you, telling stories 

with no details of any kind. When pressed for details 

the answer was always the same, "I don't know" or 

silence.

  

The failed transistor theory of internally regulated  

 alternators has never been shown as a cause of  

any OV condition, but it's commonly quoted as a 

severe design limitation. 



It's like politics, bad stuff happens on both sides, 

including externally regulated alternators, but you just 

won't hear about it on this forum. If you do report 

honestly, people like you call you names like grade 

  school. That is sad, pathetic and totally unproductive 

  for improving designs.

 

Some people go on and on about their experience as if 

that makes their opinion always right. Well I have 

experience and deal in the most complicated electrical 

systems found on aircraft, but that doesn't make me 

automatically right. However I'm entitled to my opinion 

with out being personally attacked. We can agree to 

disagree, but please try to act like a Gentleman or lighten up..



  For some reason the "culture" of this  forum is, to disagree, 

is to hate the other person and be adversarial. Why?

   

  The forum culture here has a reason & perennial. This forum 

sadly is far from a free exchange of ideas. There is a lot of 

great information, but its also has people who enjoy personally 

attacking one another. We need to change that.

   

Why can't you just disagree and be pleasant with out calling 

  the other person stupid?

  

I don't have a problem or one ounce of animosity towards 

anyone on this list, but there are a few that seem to have 

problems with many people? (for some weird reason)

   

  Good luck with your Europa tricycle Mr. Rob Housman, but 

I don't even know you, nor do you know me; why you have 

some grudge against me is beyond normality and reason.

   

  Sincerely gmcjetpilot(at)yahoo.com (gmcjetpilot(at)yahoo.com)

  (please send hate mail to above)

   

  do not archive

   

   

   

  >Time: 01:14:49 PM PST US

 	  Quote: 	
		  From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>

Subject: RE: Nippondenso alternator question



HA! Best laugh I've had all week!  Reminds me of elementary school "my

 >dad can
	


[quote]beat up your dad".  I prefer lead by example.



Do not archive this useless information



>--

nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: Nippondenso alternator question

At 11:02 AM 7/18/2008 -0700, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Dear Mr Rob Housman



First of all I have not posted anything on ND alternators

in months and months.



I don't know what your problem is or what I did to offend

you, but I do know facts from rhetoric, propaganda and

hyperbole when I hear it.


	


   <snip>



   Put it to bed George. We've already moved on to

   more important things.



   Bob . . .

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