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 Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Required crewmember |
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Both pilots are required to have a type rating by who C or what? Not by part 61 of the FARs which governs US pilot licenses. Maybe your operating certificate.
Sec. 61.31 Type rating requirements C additional training C and authorization requirements. (a) Type ratings required. A person who acts as a pilot in command of any of the following aircraft must hold a type rating for that aircraft: (1) Large aircraft (except lighter-than-air). (2) Turbojet-powered airplanes. (3) Other aircraft specified by the Administrator through aircraft type certificate procedures.
From: f4ffm2(at)adelphia.netSubject: Re: Required crewmemberDate: Tue C 22 Jul 2008 22:13:17 -0700To: yak-list(at)matronics.comJim....just to keep the record straight. Both pilots on a 747-400 (required crew) DO have to have a type rating. When I first started flying the 47-400 in the early 1990's C new F/O's were required to get a type rating in the left seat. By the time I retired off the airplane in 2003 C as a sop to the airlines to save money C the FAA had bought into a thing called an SIC Type Rating....which is sort of a type rating but limited to second in command.
This SIC 'thing' is still 'grandfathered' in international operations.....but C the real rule for ICAO and EASA airspace is that C for an airplane requiring two pilots and a type rating C BOTH pilots shall have an unrestricted type rating.
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Roger Baker__________________________________________
On Jul 22 C 2008 C at 8:32 PM C cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/22/2008 4:48:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time C mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil writes:
And according to what is now being said on this subject C I have anotherquestion. Does the B-24 require two pilots to fly it? If so C thenPappy can not be the only FAST rated person aboard. His co-pilot wouldhave to be too. See? Look how much we're learning here! Look outPappy! Mark
Geee. Does both pilots (required crew) of a 747 require a type rating? No C just the pilot-in-command. (standard common practice with all airlines and Part 121)
Do both pilots of that same 747 require a ATP? No just the PIC (Part 121 & exception if over 8 hours)
Do both pilots of that same 747 require a 1 class flight physical? No C just the PIC(Part 121)
That has been the same for every airplane that I've crewed for a very long time.
Now you can have a type rating without a ATP? Yes. AAMOF I know of several private pilots with B-25 type ratings.
Note: PIC has nothing to do with what pilot license (private C commercial C or ATP) is in the PIC's pocket.
And the B-24 requires 2 pilots C (plus a "flight mechanic" NOTE: not "Flight Engineer") and to fly formation in wavered airspace only the PIC is required to have a FAST card which is the only place a FAST card is any good C no matter what airplane he is flying.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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