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kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: Found a Kitfox kit close to me

I found a Kitfox 3 kit close to my house at a very reasonable price. I had started building a scratch CH 701 but I really do like the features of the Kitfox like the folding wing. They do fold on this model right? Anyway I'm here to ask some questions. I believe that this thing will accept a Rotax 912 UL engine? I am kinda set on the Raven G10 /G13 engines have these been used on this airframe before? With The Rotax and VGs  what kind of performance for take off, landing and cruise ( with all the fairings added) I know its not a spot lander or a helicopter, but then I really don't need it to be quite that.



There is something on the Kitfox site about  Yaw on the model 2, was this corrected on the 3 model? 



How much fuel does it hold and where is it carried.



Sorry for jumping in and asking so many questions, but for one I want to compare your answers to what the guy is saying and two like always someone else is looking at it.



Thanks for any help.



Kevin

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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: Found a Kitfox kit close to me

At 04:40 AM 8/25/2008, you wrote:

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		  They do fold on this model right?


	


Yes, they do fold, and easier than the IV, since you don't have to 

disconnect the flaperons. However, whether it's easy to fold depends 

on the builder. If you build knowing you're going to regularly fold 

you can make it quite safe and simple. (I fold every time I fly, 

which is usually 3-4 times a week.)



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		  Anyway I'm here to ask some questions.


	


A good place to do it.



 	  Quote: 	
		  I believe that this thing will accept a Rotax 912 UL engine?


	


One of the Kitfoxes on our field is a 3 with a 912UL. Damn thing goes 

nearly straight up.



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		  There is something on the Kitfox site about  Yaw on the model 2, was 

this corrected on the 3 model?


	


All the Kitfoxes 1-3 had no adverse yaw reduction, and therefore 

require substantially more rudder activity than your average Cessna 

driver is used to. However the rudder force is very light so it's 

easy enough to accomplish, even for long periods. Also, the IV had 

substantially larger and fully symmetric flaperons, making it much 

more responsive in roll.



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		  How much fuel does it hold and where is it carried.


	


That depends on the kit. I believe the 3 was still available with the 

poly instrument panel tank. There were also various combinations of 6 

and 13 gallon wing tanks. Depending on your fuel burn and bladder 

capacity you can get rather dramatic endurance numbers. (How about 6 

1/2 hours for a 912!)



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		  Sorry for jumping in and asking so many questions, but for one I 

want to compare your answers to what the guy is saying and two like 

always someone else is looking at it.


	


Well, if history is any judge, you'll get quite a variety of answers 

here as well.





Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

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kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Found a Kitfox kit close to me

Thanks for the reply,  he emailed me today and the mount is for a 582. Does the factory have info on these like thrust line stuff for welding up a different mount, as I know that the company has changed hands a few times.  



Was there any major difference in the cowl for the 912 vs the 582? 



Thanks again



PS straight up is good!  



Kevin

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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: Found a Kitfox kit close to me

At 02:03 PM 8/25/2008, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Thanks for the reply,  he emailed me today and the mount is for a 

582. Does the factory have info on these like thrust line stuff for 

welding up a different mount, as I know that the company has changed 

hands a few times.


	


Contact John directly at info(at)kitfoxaircraftllc.com. I suspect he has 

not only info but hardware.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

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kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Found a Kitfox kit close to me

I got a reply from John  yesterday afternoon, they do stock the 912 mount.

So I guess its time to start horse trading!



Thanks Again

Kevin

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