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ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: Fiberglass hazard

Folks,   

Feel compelled to write something to warn others of the hazards of fiberglass.  Bit of background, I am early 50's healthy as a Malley Bull (sorry that's an Ozzie term) and apart from the occasional sniffle, have never been crook.  The only real fibergalss work I have ever done is on the -10.  I have always used a dust mask when sanding the glass parts, but did not worry about eye protection 'cause I was wearing specs for up close work.  

Over the past 6 months, I have been heavily involved in finishing the glass (cabin top, wing tips, fairing etc).  The first four months were issue free.  Symptoms of dust exposure began with clogged sinuses about two months ago (easily fixed by using a mask and keeping the shop vacuumed).  In recent weeks I have noticed some irritation around the eyes after sanding the glass.  This irritation has now blown into a significant allergy in my eyes - not a good thing for a pilot!  Spent some time doing some final sanding for paint on Friday, had very sore eyes (lids) on Saturday and woke on Sunday to find my eyelids swollen such that I could barely open my eyes.  

Fibergalss dust is nasty s&*t.  Almost all will use a mask.  I did not use full coverage goggles because of my eye glasses - get a pair of goggles that cover your specs (if you need them) to keep the dust out!  I had heard  (but did not believe) that the body's resistance to toxins erodes gradually.  You think you are suffering no ill effects until - bang!, your resistance is gone, and this stuff really makes you crook.  I now BELIEVE!!  

Treat this crap like asbestos; wear a mask, wear protective goggles, make sure you get the dust off your clothes, keep the shop vacuumed.  And do this 10 fold when dealing with paint and paint dust (especially epoxies and isocyanates).  Many will say this is obvious, but a personal anecdote may hopefully prevent someone else from future health issues.  

Cheers,  

Ron  

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: Fiberglass hazard

I am sorry to hear of your allergic reaction.  A small % of folks react to either the resin or the fibers.  This is not a wide spread phenomenon.  In my experience over 40 years of working with the stuff and as safety director of a research facility,  

   

I have seen it only a few times.  I know this doesn’t make you feel better, but I don’t want folks to think that epoxy is universally bad news.  As with any chemical take it slow, wear protection and use good safety practices.  

   

Gary Specketer  

40274 Flying  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron

 Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:47 PM

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 Subject: Fiberglass hazard  

  

   

   

Folks,   

Feel compelled to write something to warn others of the hazards of fiberglass.  Bit of background, I am early 50's healthy as a Malley Bull (sorry that's an Ozzie term) and apart from the occasional sniffle, have never been crook.  The only real fibergalss work I have ever done is on the -10.  I have always used a dust mask when sanding the glass parts, but did not worry about eye protection 'cause I was wearing specs for up close work.  

Over the past 6 months, I have been heavily involved in finishing the glass (cabin top, wing tips, fairing etc).  The first four months were issue free.  Symptoms of dust exposure began with clogged sinuses about two months ago (easily fixed by using a mask and keeping the shop vacuumed).  In recent weeks I have noticed some irritation around the eyes after sanding the glass.  This irritation has now blown into a significant allergy in my eyes - not a good thing for a pilot!  Spent some time doing some final sanding for paint on Friday, had very sore eyes (lids) on Saturday and woke on Sunday to find my eyelids swollen such that I could barely open my eyes.  

Fibergalss dust is nasty s&*t.  Almost all will use a mask.  I did not use full coverage goggles because of my eye glasses - get a pair of goggles that cover your specs (if you need them) to keep the dust out!  I had heard  (but did not believe) that the body's resistance to toxins erodes gradually.  You think you are suffering no ill effects until - bang!, your resistance is gone, and this stuff really makes you crook.  I now BELIEVE!!  

Treat this crap like asbestos; wear a mask, wear protective goggles, make sure you get the dust off your clothes, keep the shop vacuumed.  And do this 10 fold when dealing with paint and paint dust (especially epoxies and isocyanates).  Many will say this is obvious, but a personal anecdote may hopefully prevent someone else from future health issues.  

Cheers, 

 Ron 

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Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.co
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: Fiberglass hazard

Ron,

  

 Sorry to hear about  that.  I hope you can finish up and still enjoy at least part of the  process.

  

 I once got a rash from  some carbon I was cutting, but it disappeared and never came back.  Now I'm  more careful with the dust.  I think you're on the right track--once you  kind of fill your personal resistance reservoir, it overflows quickly.  In  10 years and with at least 50 customers and employees exposed, I've only seen  one other reaction that I'm sure of;  there's annecdotal evidence of a few  more, similar to yours.

  

 As Gary pointed out, it  could be to the fiberglass or to the resin.  Farm out the rest if you  can.  A lot of aircraft paint shops are pretty good with fiberglass  finishing.

  

 Good Luck,

  

 Dave Saylor

 AirCrafters LLC

 140 Aviation Way

 Watsonville, CA 

 831-722-9141

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   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN,  Ron

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:47 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Fiberglass  hazard

 



 

Folks,  

Feel compelled to write something to warn others of  the hazards of fiberglass.  Bit of background, I am early 50's healthy as a  Malley Bull (sorry that's an Ozzie term) and apart from the occasional sniffle,  have never been crook.  The only real fibergalss work I have ever done is  on the -10.  I have always used a dust mask when sanding the glass parts,  but did not worry about eye protection 'cause I was wearing specs for up close  work. 

Over the past 6 months, I have been heavily involved  in finishing the glass (cabin top, wing tips, fairing etc).  The first four  months were issue free.  Symptoms of dust exposure began with clogged  sinuses about two months ago (easily fixed by using a mask and keeping the shop  vacuumed).  In recent weeks I have noticed some irritation around the eyes  after sanding the glass.  This irritation has now blown into a significant  allergy in my eyes - not a good thing for a pilot!  Spent some time doing  some final sanding for paint on Friday, had very sore eyes (lids) on Saturday  and woke on Sunday to find my eyelids swollen such that I could barely open my  eyes. 

Fibergalss dust is nasty s&*t.  Almost all  will use a mask.  I did not use full coverage goggles because of my eye  glasses - get a pair of goggles that cover your specs (if you need them) to keep  the dust out!  I had heard  (but did not believe) that the body's  resistance to toxins erodes gradually.  You think you are suffering no ill  effects until - bang!, your resistance is gone, and this stuff really makes you  crook.  I now BELIEVE!! 

Treat this crap like asbestos; wear a mask, wear  protective goggles, make sure you get the dust off your clothes, keep the shop  vacuumed.  And do this 10 fold when dealing with paint and paint dust  (especially epoxies and isocyanates).  Many will say this is obvious, but a  personal anecdote may hopefully prevent someone else from future health  issues. 

Cheers, 

Ron  

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