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		herbgh(at)nctc.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Econo Miser!! | 
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				Jerb
 
    Easy to make your own....A quick look at the exploded drawing on 
 the UL news site tells the story...   I would install stops such that 
 the needle could only travel the distance from the lower to the top 
 clip position... maybe a bit more?  Otherwise a geared turns counter 
 on the inst panel would be wise...
 
    Jacks design may be more eloquent... ?  Gonna post it to your site 
 Jack?  Herb
 At 11:32 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote:
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 Is this a system that sold back in 95 or so by a guy if I recall 
 right was based in Alaska.  Seems like I also recall he was killed 
 in a plane crash.  I may be totally wrong.  We bought one of those 
 kits, my partner installed it but I had him pull it back off until 
 our engine was out of warranty.  We never reinstalled it.  This one 
 came with all the parts.  Didn't have to send him anything but 
 money.  If I recall right it allowed you to tweak the mixture while 
 in flight.  It been a while and cells are dying at a faster pace each day.
 jerb
 At 08:32 PM 9/1/2008, you wrote:
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 >At 04:18 PM 9/1/08 -0500, you wrote:
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		Dana
 
  
  Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 1047 Location: Connecticut, USA
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Econo Miser!! | 
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				I seem to recall a commercial mixture adjust retrofit that involved moving 
 the main jet up and down, rather than moving the needle itself... but I 
 could be mistaken.
 
 Mixture control using manifold vacuum is not new.  The Bing altitude 
 compensating carbs do something like that, and it was an option in the 
 Stromberg carburetor on the A-65 in my 1941 Taylorcraft (mine just had the 
 cover plate where it would be mounted).
 
 -Dana
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		jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:18 am    Post subject: Econo Miser!! | 
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				At 08:52 AM 9/4/08 -0500, you wrote:
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 Jerb
 
    Easy to make your own....A quick look at the exploded drawing on 
 the UL news site tells the story...   I would install stops such that 
 the needle could only travel the distance from the lower to the top 
 clip position... maybe a bit more?  Otherwise a geared turns counter 
 on the inst panel would be wise...
 
    Jacks design may be more eloquent... ?  Gonna post it to your site 
 Jack?  Herb
 
 
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 Herb,
 
 I will post it when I am sure it is going to do the job.   My goal is to 
 raise the EGT from one slot rich.  I flew yesterday with 3/4th of a slot 
 rich which is 1/4 a slot richer than my coldest winter setting for the 
 Victor 1+.  The best vacuum I could pull was 4.2 inches of water, and so I 
 could not raise the EGT to the upper limit on some of the lower cruise 
 engine speeds.
 
 I just finished making an adapter so I can replace the altitude compensation 
 plug in the Bing with a hose barb.  This source should produce lower 
 pressures than the inlet probe. If the weather clears up, I will try it out 
 today. If this works, it will make it easier to convert to the system as one 
 will not have to remove the carburetor to install the current probe. Right 
 now I am using a junk gage and flow throttling valve.  I am so encouraged 
 that I ordered a new flow throttling valve, a vacuum gage and thin wall 
 light tubing. At this point it looks very promising. Valve adjustment is not 
 sensitive, and the pressure and EGT reading are holding steady.  I thought 
 of discarding the gage, but a gage costs less than a multiple turn readout 
 scale locking dial for the valve and doesn't weigh much more.  
 
 Fly Safe!
 
 Jack B. Hart FF004
 Winchester, IN
 
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