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		Bruce(at)glasair.org Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Efis question | 
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				OK, here's my list for backup instruments. 
 
 Attitude gyro - preferably driven by a different power source - vacuum.
 
 ASI, Altimeter.
 
 Handheld com and GPS.
 
 Bruce
 www.Glasair.org
  
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		robertrv607(at)yahoo.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Efis question | 
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				Quesstion again,:  what are people that have installed the EFIS,  do...
  Robert
 
 --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty(at)tds.net> wrote:
 
  [quote]From: Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty(at)tds.net>
 Subject: Re: Efis question
 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 11:38 AM
 
     Ron,  That is  a great point.
   
  Jim 
  RV9a building - MN
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		Bruce(at)glasair.org Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Efis question | 
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				Just look at  the panel of any small certified EFIS equipped airplane. They all have a steam  gage attitude gyro, altimeter, and ASI. Of course you could install one of those  cute single instrument electronic standby gyros they install on the big iron,  about 20k I think.
   
   
   
 Bruce 
 www.Glasair.org 
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		n8zg(at)mchsi.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Efis question | 
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				Robert –   
    
 I installed AFS-3500 & -3400 (both with internal backup batteries), TruTrak ADI with internal GPS and backup battery, TruTrak Digiflight VSGV, round ASI, round Altimeter.  
    
 But I’m not flying yet…  
    
 Neal  
 RV-7 N8ZG  
      
 From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bert murillo
  Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:34 PM
  To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Efis question  
   
               
  Quesstion again,:  what are people that have   installed the EFIS,  do...   
       
 Robert
    
    --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty(at)tds.net>   wrote:   
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 From: Jim Fogarty at Lakes   & Leisure Realty <jfogarty(at)tds.net>
    Subject: Re: Efis question
    To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
    Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 11:38 AM         
 Ron,    That is  a great point.   
       
     
       
 Jim      
       
 RV9a   building - MN   
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 -----   Original Message -----    
       
 From: Ron Lee (ronlee(at)pcisys.net)    
       
 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)    
       
 Sent: Monday, September   22, 2008 9:25 AM   
       
 Subject: Re: Efis   question   
       
     
       
 Bert, if you are IMC and all you have is an EFIS for   spatial orientation   
       
 and you lose it then most likely within a minute or two   you will enter   
       
 uncontrolled flight and will soon be dead.   
       
     
       
 People...think about what you are doing.   
       
     
       
 Ron Lee   
       
     
       
     
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		fastpilotrv8
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Efis question | 
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				Robert
   
  I am flying my RV and  I do agree with Neal's statement below.    I do have a 2 1/4 TruTrak ADI with a backup  battery plus its own GPS and it works great.  It  is also nice to have a cross check to my OP  Technologies EFIS  GPS Tracking number. and that  Tracking number on the TruTrak ADI .
    
  I do have to admit that when I am  flying the GPS Tracking Degree number on the TruTrak  ADI , TruTrak Autopilot and the  OP Technologies EFIS is seldom the match.   Don't know why but they are always a degree or two off.
   
  Dane
  N838RV
  RV8a
   
    
   
   
  In a message dated 9/23/2008 4:09:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  n8zg(at)mchsi.com writes:
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 Robert    –    
     
 I    installed AFS-3500 & -3400 (both with internal backup batteries), TruTrak    ADI with internal GPS and backup battery, TruTrak Digiflight VSGV, round ASI,    round Altimeter.   
     
 But    I’m not flying yet…   
     
 Neal   
 RV-7    N8ZG   
        
 From:    owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com]    On Behalf Of bert murillo
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008    2:34 PM
 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: RV-List:    Efis question
    
                                        
  Quesstion again,:  what are people that          have installed the EFIS,  do...
                   
 Robert
 
 --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jim Fogarty at          Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty(at)tds.net>          wrote:
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 From: Jim Fogarty at            Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty(at)tds.net>
 Subject: Re:            Efis question
 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Monday,            September 22, 2008, 11:38 AM                                 
 Ron,             That is  a great point.
                       
  
                       
 Jim            
                       
 RV9a            building - MN
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 From: Ron Lee (ronlee(at)pcisys.net) 
                           
 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com) 
                           
 Sent: Monday,              September 22, 2008 9:25 AM
                           
 Subject: Re:              Efis question
                           
  
                           
 Bert, if you are IMC and all you have is an EFIS              for spatial orientation
                           
 and you lose it then most likely within a minute              or two you will enter
                           
 uncontrolled flight and will soon be              dead.
                           
  
                           
 People...think about what you are              doing.
                           
  
                           
 Ron Lee
                           
  
                           
  
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		fastpilotrv8
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Efis question | 
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				My 2 1/4" ADI,  2 1/4" Altimeter and 2 1/4" Airspeed is my  partial panel. (plus an old battery operator  Garmin 95 GPS )
   
  Dane 
  N838RV
  RV8a
   
   In a message dated 9/22/2008 10:50:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  tcone1(at)comcast.net writes:
  [quote]   Since when is a loss of ADI or artificial horizon    an automatic trip to the morgue?
     
    Don't they teach "partial panel"    anymore?
     
     
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