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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: 100% Bio-Diesel Flight

All



This is quite far from Europa world (except Wilkch-operators) but maybe you are interested:



My friend Mr Jarmo Hakala made a succesfull 40 minutes flight with his only-one-in-the-world

Pik 25 OH-XXV powered with 100% Bio-Diesel. Fuel was regenerated from vegetable oil

and those people who were there said the smell after take-off was similar to McDonald´s.



After flight those people with Mr Hakala "cheers" with that drinkable fuel.



Official supervisor for that event in Jarmo´s own airport EFNS was Mr P Teravainen



That was probably first time in the aviation history.



Google OH-XXV



Regards, Raimo



PS: he was early days a potential Europa builder but assumed to be too tall 193 cm /76".

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frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: 100% Bio-Diesel Flight

Raimo Toivio wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   My friend Mr Jarmo Hakala made a succesfull 40 minutes flight with his only-one-in-the-world

 Pik 25 OH-XXV powered with 100% Bio-Diesel. Fuel was regenerated from vegetable oil

 and those people who were there said the smell after take-off was similar to McDonald´s.


	


My car drives at 100% Bio-Diesel, but I wouldn't dare to try it in an

airplane. There are lot's of unsolved issues and threats to the engine

and fuel system. The fuel may contain fatty acids, consuming the fuel

pump inards at a slowly pace. There can be a lot of moisture in the

fuel, and the fuel is quite capable to hide it (contains some natural

emulgators), and release it when the temperature gets colder or the

ambient pressure changes. I guess I don't have to explain the

differences between airplanes and cars on this forum...  Some of the

liquid fats solidify when the temperature decreases. You might well

discover at your cruise altitude that the contents of the fuel tank

suddenly converts into solid grease. The only advantage is that it won't

burst into flames at the subsequent forced landing, but is actually

quite helpfull into making this into a "smooth" event.



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		   That was probably first time in the aviation history.


	


I'm not seeing a future here, unless someone sets up an aviation

standard to which the fuel must comply, and you can get fuel certified

to that standard.



Best regards,

Frans Veldman

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karelvranken(at)hotmail.c
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: 100% Bio-Diesel Flight

Raimo,

Congratulations to all the finish airmen. Pik has a good reputation. Is 

there also one with shoulder wings? Is Tervamaki the designer?

Regards,

Karel Vranken.  F-PKRL 200 hours and annual inspection.

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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: 100% Bio-Diesel Flight

Thanks Karel,



after your message I got a clear memory!!!



I have been once in your huge and personal hangary in Belgium.

That was beside your wonderful home and your beatiful wife (wishes!).



I am not sure but think Mr. Tervamaki has nothing to do w PIK 25.

The early design was made in 1960 in the Univercity of Helsinki

by PIK 



PIK = Polyteknikkojen Ilmailu Kerho = The Club of The  Aviation M. Sc.



They cancelled the project during seventies.



After, Mr. J Hakala took the project and made it completed during let´s say 15 years.

With diesel engine of course.



And you can be sure that is better than Thielert.



Please let some wishes to your near neigbour Chantal & Dirk!



Marke & Raimo

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