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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Kolb Twin Reply with quote

Whatever happened to the twin engine Kolb?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Kolb Twin Reply with quote

Look here - project is moving along:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Kolb Twin Reply with quote

I wonder how the airflow will be between the props inboard? Piper did this
with overlapping props on a cub many years ago but I never heard how that
experiment went.

I also wonder how the mount will fare under the torque of single engine
flying. Are the props counter-rotating?

Very interesting and also something that could be applied to bigger machines
I would think Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: Kolb Twin Reply with quote

There is a crop duster (forget the name) that has a similar setup in a tractor configuration - it was successful. The props rotate in the same direction, but are moving in opposite directions across the overlap area. I made the mounts quite beefy. The engines are 17 inches off the center line of the aircraft, so the twisting moment during single engine operation should not be too high. Each engine should produce about 180 lb of thrust at sea level.

The plan is to do static full power runup in all engine configurations with video of the mount areas before test flying. Won't know for sure until I try it out. That's a big part of the challenge (and fun) of this sport. The airframe is fully tuned out with about 50 hours of time with a 503 pushing it. I will have to do another weight and balance before flying it with the twins.

The biggest suspected potential problem is vibration. I've used slightly different spacing between the mounts on each engine to help prevent harmonics, but I'm pretty sure there will be an RPM range that will need to be avoided. Time will tell!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Kolb Twin Reply with quote

| The plan is to do static full power runup in all engine
configurations with video of the mount areas before test flying.

| Dave Bigelow

Dave:

A friend of mine, during testing of his Suzuki powered 3/4 scale
Jenny, used a strobe light at night on the prop. Amazing what the
strobe uncovered. At certain rpm the prop blades were dancing in all
directions and configurations. This may proved to be a critical
element of your test program. I don't know how he had the strobe
configured, but could find out if you are interested.

john h
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