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bruce.smith(at)york.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: Is this possible

Gary,



I know this isn't Grumman related, but is the propulsion concept for the 

XOV in this article doable with today's technology?



http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/030606p1.xml



Thanks.



Bruce Smith

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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: Is this possible

In a message dated 3/9/06 8:35:41 AM, bruce.smith(at)york.com writes:

 	  Quote: 	
		   but is the propulsion concept for the

 XOV in this article doable with today's technology?

 


	


what makes you think it hasn't been done?

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bruce.smith(at)york.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: Is this possible

Dunno. I guess I was hoping for the rumored "Aurora" to be more like 

Bill Sweetman's concept. Single Stage to Sub-Orbit. Powered by a methane 

slurry type fuel.

TeamGrumman(at)aol.com said the following on 3/9/2006 10:24 PM:

 	  Quote: 	

 In a message dated 3/9/06 8:35:41 AM, bruce.smith(at)york.com writes:

> but is the propulsion concept for the

> XOV in this article doable with today's technology?

>

>     

 what makes you think it hasn't been done?

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Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:32 am Post subject: Is this possible

In a message dated 3/10/06 5:38:46 AM, bruce.smith(at)york.com writes:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Dunno. I guess I was hoping for the rumored "Aurora" to be more like

 Bill Sweetman's concept. Single Stage to Sub-Orbit. Powered by a methane

 slurry type fuel.

 

 


	


In the early 90's there was a series of tests done over Edwards where the 

plane was flying in the high Mach numbers.   After about 6 events, the press 

started to ask a lot of questions and the testing went away.   That, my friend, is 

all I can say.

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: Is this possible

TeamGrumman(at)aol.com wrote:

snip



 	  Quote: 	
		  In the early 90's there was a series of tests done over Edwards where the 

plane was flying in the high Mach numbers.   After about 6 events, the press 

started to ask a lot of questions and the testing went away.   That, my friend, is 

all I can say.



Because you don't have any further info ..... or is one of those "if I 
	


told you, I'd have to kill you" thingy's???? 

I just love intrigue!!!

Linn

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: Is this possible

TeamGrumman(at)aol.com wrote:

snip



 	  Quote: 	
		  In the early 90's there was a series of tests done over Edwards where the 

plane was flying in the high Mach numbers.   After about 6 events, the press 

started to ask a lot of questions and the testing went away.   That, my friend, is 

all I can say.



Because you don't have any further info ..... or is one of those "if I 
	


told you, I'd have to kill you" thingy's???? 

I just love intrigue!!!

Linn

do not archive

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Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: Is this possible

In a message dated 3/10/06 9:45:57 AM, pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net writes:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Because you don't have any further info ..... or is one of those "if I

 told you, I'd have to kill you" thingy's???? 

 


	


Well, honestly, a little of both.   I worked a few black programs over the 

years.   I've been out of it for almost 9 years now.   Do I miss it????   Not at 

all.



Gary

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bruce.smith(at)york.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: Is this possible

Linn,

Could be!! My son, a Force Recon Marine, has never told me what he does 

in........... the Middle East. However, while my wife and I were 

visiting him at Camp Pendleton last spring, one of his friends joked 

that they were the real Jack Bauers.

Gary,

Interesting. High Mach like Mach 6?

Bruce

linn Walters said the following on 3/10/2006 3:42 PM:

 	  Quote: 	

 TeamGrumman(at)aol.com wrote:

 snip

> In the early 90's there was a series of tests done over Edwards where the 

> plane was flying in the high Mach numbers.   After about 6 events, the press 

> started to ask a lot of questions and the testing went away.   That, my friend, is 

> all I can say.

>

>     

 Because you don't have any further info ..... or is one of those "if I 

 told you, I'd have to kill you" thingy's???? 

 I just love intrigue!!!

 Linn

Gpav72(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: Is this possible

Are we talking about the infamous 'donuts on a rope' sightings in the mid  

90's. Yup, thats "aurora". Powered by four or six Pulse Detonation Wave Engines  

(PDWEs), fuelled with liquid methane. As air breathers, these PDWEs could  

theoretically propel a hypersonic aircraft towards Mach 10 at an altitude in  

excess of 180,000 feet!!! On a flight back to KJFK  from KLAX I saw  something 

SCREAM across my right window. Im talking fast guys and  gals.  

 

 

                                         greg

Gpav72(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject: Is this possible

Anyway, not really Grumman related. Maybe if Gary strapped one of those  

PDWE's onto a tiger then we would have something to talk about.

 

                                                                             

Greg

jamey

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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: Is this possible

Maybe he does but we can't talk about it?



Jamey

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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:13 am Post subject: Is this possible

In a message dated 3/10/06 11:35:51 AM, bruce.smith(at)york.com writes:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Gary,

 

 Interesting. High Mach like Mach 6?

 

 Bruce

 


	


like 8

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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:13 am Post subject: Is this possible

In a message dated 3/10/06 12:59:32 PM, Gpav72(at)AOL.COM writes:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Anyway, not really Grumman related. Maybe if Gary strapped one of those=A0

 PDWE's onto a tiger then we would have something to talk about.




	


This isn't a GRUMMAN re;ated site.   it's for people who like grummans but

may havesomething to add to the rest of the world.   Like, anybody got a good

chockolate chip cookie receipt?

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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:19 am Post subject: Is this possible

In a message dated 3/11/06 2:15:06 AM, TeamGrumman(at)aol.com writes:

 	  Quote: 	
		   This isn't a GRUMMAN re;ated site.=A0=A0 it's for people who like grummans but

 may havesomething to add to the rest of the world.=A0=A0 Like, anybody got a

 good

 chockolate chip cookie receipt?


	


OK, so I've been drininking

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