Matronics Email Lists :: View topic

Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists

Get Email Distribution Too! FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register

Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in

RV10 Axle Extensions

Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> RV10-List

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author Message

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

Not sure what most of you have done, but when I saw the extensions supplied with the kit, I knew I needed something different/better.  So I machined a new set for myself.  Then my neighbor, Mark Carey with a flying 10, told he he sure wished I had made him a set.  That was 6 months ago.  Last week he called me to tell me that after a hard landing, he broke one of the extensions.  So, long story short, I gave him mine, and am now making more.   Made out of Aluminum 6061T6, using an AN5 bolt to bolt to the axle nut, instead of the stk AN4.   All that's left to do from the user end is drill out the attach hole in the nut, install the AN5 bolt, and drill for a cotter pin.

I am initially making 15 sets and am giving them away for $40 a set including shipping.

Don McDonald

#40636

11460 Elks Circle

Rancho Cordova, Ca   95742

916-801-8402



I can hardly wait for Ricks question asking me which one in the picture is the one I made!!!!!!

IMG_2671c.jpg

Description:

Filesize:

80.58 KB

Viewed:

247 Time(s)

IMG_2670c.jpg

Description:

Filesize:

68.54 KB

Viewed:

250 Time(s)

_________________
Don A. McDonald
40636

Lenny Iszak

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Posts: 270

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions

Don,



Sign me up for a set!



Lenny

nukeflyboy

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 162
Location: Granbury, TX

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:51 am Post subject: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions

Another good deal from Don. Sign me up for a pair - the check's in the mail.

_________________
Dave Moore
RV-6 built and sold
RV-10 built and flying

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

You guys do know that Cleveland Tools stocks these now, right?

So they're available all the time, and all of the drilling is done.

I think they may be $5 or $10 more expensive or something like

that, but just wanted you to know that they are there.  Another

builder took that design that I originally made and decided to

build them and distribute them through Cleveland.  Nothing

wrong with having multiple sources, but just pointing out that

EVERYONE should really get themselves a set sometime, from

at least somewhere, and Cleveland stocks them.  I'm not sure

if they include all the hardware like I did originally, or not,

but I also did include a longer Stainless Steel screw for the

outboard side, because those screws definitely will work themselves

loose if not lock-tite'd in.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

nukeflyboy wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Another good deal from Don.  Sign me up for a pair - the check's in the mail.

 

 --------

 Dave Moore

 RV-6 flying

 RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9336#209336

msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

There are also these:



http://www.iflyrv10.com/iflyrv10/Billet_Pant_Leg_Extension.html



and they look a lot like these:



http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RVAE10





Michael



--

msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

Guys really if you can't take two seconds to change the recipient of the email so we all don't get these, at least add do not archive so all of your orders don't show up in every search for axle extension or headset bracket.  There is absolutely no reason for your orders to be broadcast out to the group and lodged into the search engine forever, it just poor form.



  Don, might I suggest you setup a web page or use some other forum for your order collection.  At least ask people to send the orders directly to you.  I think it's great you are offering these parts but I'm really tired of all these "I'll take one" emails.



Soapbox off

Michael

Do not archive



--

wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

Michael,



Ditto!  You beat me to the punch.  I don't mind so much the "congratulations"  but do we ALL really need to know the "me too" or "sign me up" or "I'll take one."  



C'mon guys, you are building airplanes, you should at least be able to figure out how to change the "To:" field of your email message for this type of replies.  I'm sure many feel this was but were not comfortable publically so.  The problem is that if something is not said, the behavior and "poor form" would continue.  So thanks Michael for raising the "list etiquette" issue again.  It helps to keep the signal to noise ratio of this list high.



Do not archive



William

http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ 



------

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

Sorry to have upset anyone.  I thought it was kind of neat when we were chasing the countersink around.... But, point taken.  guys, unless you're commenting on something about the part, which you think the rest of us might want to know, like Tim's comments,  please respond directly to me.  I feel like a kid who got his hand slapped...   And no, I'm certainly not going to set up a web page.  The idea was to provide parts to as many builders as posible for a price all could afford.  It's enough work already.

 Don



--- On Sun, 10/19/08, William Curtis <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com> wrote:



 [quote]From: William Curtis <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com>

Subject: RE: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:24 AM



[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "William Curtis" <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com>  Michael,  Ditto!  You beat me to the punch.  I don't mind so much the "congratulations"  but do we ALL really need to know the "me too" or "sign me up" or "I'll take one."    C'mon guys, you are building airplanes, you should at least be able to figure out how to change the "To:" field of your email message for this type of replies.  I'm sure many feel this was but were not comfortable publically so.  The problem is that if something is not said, the behavior and "poor form" would continue.  So thanks Michael for raising the "list etiquette" issue again.  It helps to keep the signal to noise ratio of this list high.  Do not archive  William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/   ------

_________________
Don A. McDonald
40636

wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

Don,



I think you mis-understood me (us?).  The reply was NOT directed to you, but to the many replies that should have been sent to you ONLY, that were sent to the entire list.  I think it is great when you or anyone else offers products or services to the RV community but if someone wants to take advantage of those offers, the rest of us don't need to know it.



William

http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ 



------

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

Don't feel bad Don, it's just a general etiquette thing on

the behalf of the other responders.  My suggestion would be

to always just request that



"Please send an email to xyz(at)yourdomain.com and DO NOT

reply to the list, or reply-all"



I know, it's tough, because I've had the same thing happen

tons of times where you request offline responses but people

just reply to the address without thinking.  It's not your

fault, it's just something that people have to try to remember.

And, as William said, not such a big deal when one new

flying RV-10 announcement can generate 15 public replies,

but you just don't want every product announcement to

generate 15 "I'll take one's" that go to the general list.

I find it amazing that even on the VAF site, where it's web

forums, people STILL post those "I'll take one" responses...

when really they should contact the sender only.



Like I said, it's nice that we have multiple suppliers and

multiple design choices with some of these parts, so

nobody wants to stop you from getting them out.  We could

use more innovation from people like you.  They just want

to see orders requested in a different way than a long

thread generating multiple emails.   I posted this response

"do not archive" but as part of the thread, in hopes

that it at least gets people thinking before they do the

same.  I'm sure that the Axle extension business will be

continuing good business. At the time when I did the first

group order, there were over 160 pairs that went out, if

I remember right.  As far as I'm concerned, this is one

of those parts GUARANTEED to cause problems if you build

it stock....just like people who use the old stainless

spacers on the front axle.  If only someone (maybe you're

up for it??) came up with a good retrofit kit that included

anti-rotation stop screws such as this photo I grabbed

off the VAF forum a long time ago:

http://www.myrv10.com/tips/maintenance/NoseWheel/2005087365224441271_rs.jpg

Now THAT is a parts kit that I think would also be a "must buy".



My writeup on that problem is here:

http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060809/index.html



Good luck and folks, just email Don directly if you want

his extensions.  If you're a newer builder who's completely

uninformed as to the problems with the original extensions,

here's my old write-up:

http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html



What would be REALLY interesting is to see what Van's reply

would be, if a couple of people who had the standard ones

break called up and said "Have you ever seen this problem

before?"  I'd put a couple bucks on the bet that they'd say

"No, we've never heard of that problem."   Too bad in the

field, these things have been failing quite often...probably

due to the RV-10 using larger fairings than they were used to.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Don McDonald wrote:

[quote] Sorry to have upset anyone.  I thought it was kind of neat when we were 

 chasing the countersink around.... But, point taken.  guys, unless 

 you're commenting on something about the part, which you think the rest 

 of us might want to know, like Tim's comments,  please respond directly 

 to me.  I feel like a kid who got his hand slapped...   And no, I'm 

 certainly not going to set up a web page.  The idea was to provide parts 

 to as many builders as posible for a price all could afford.  It's 

 enough work already.

 Don

 

 --- On *Sun, 10/19/08, William Curtis /<wcurtis(at)nerv10.com>/* wrote:

 

     From: William Curtis <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com>

     Subject: RE: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions

     To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

     Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:24 AM

 

     

     <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com>

 

     Michael,

 

     Ditto!  You beat me to the punch.  I don't mind so much the

     "congratulations"  but do we ALL really need to know the "me

     too" or "sign me up" or "I'll take one."  

 

     C'mon guys, you are building airplanes, you should at least be able to

     figure out how to change the "To:" field of your email message for

     this type of replies.  I'm sure many feel this was but were not comfortable

     publically so.  The problem is that if something is not said, the behavior and

     "poor form" would continue.  So thanks Michael for raising the

     "list etiquette" issue again.  It helps to keep the signal to noise

     ratio of this list high.

 

     Do not archive

 

     William

     http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ 

 

     ------

msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

You didn’t upset anyone and you shouldn’t feel like a kid who got his hand slapped, unless you are a kid who got his hand slapped. ;P  Certainly isn’t your doing.  

   

  Anyway, it’s up to everyone to remember that there is a certain level of etiquette even in something as impersonal as email.  Everyone forgets to do things like trimming posts, changing subject lines, and adding “do not archive” to things like “me too” from time to time and it’s not a big deal normally.  I only chime in when it gets excessive, and you’ve been popping parts out so fast there has been no die down in between.  I personally have no interest in how you go about your business but, as with other vendors, all most of us ask is you make an attempt to encourage people to contact you directly so this doesn’t turn into a classifieds forum and we keep a high level of building communications.  

   

  Feel free to keep up the parts creations and posting new stuff here and as Tim said, tackle the nose wheel problem if you want something that will generate a couple hundred “I’ll take one” emails.  

   

Michael  

Do not archive  

     

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald

 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:35 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions  

  

   

Sorry to have upset anyone.  I thought it was kind of neat when we were chasing the countersink around.... But, point taken.  guys, unless you're commenting on something about the part, which you think the rest of us might want to know, like Tim's comments,  please respond directly to me.  I feel like a kid who got his hand slapped...   And no, I'm certainly not going to set up a web page.  The idea was to provide parts to as many builders as posible for a price all could afford.  It's enough work already.  

Don

 

   

      [quote][b]

Lenny Iszak

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Posts: 270

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions

Oops, the inconsiderate dude was me... I don't use email, but browse the forum online as I find it much easier to follow.

To my defense though i kind of though this was an accepted practice as I've seen it happen with some other things offered in the last few weeks.



I apologize to all those inconvenienced and bothered by my "me too" message.

Regards,

Lenny

#40803



do not archive

ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
Guest

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

Seems a few heavy hands fell today....didn't notice till tonight...was too busy working on my AIRPLANE!!!

Lighten up guys!!



Rick Sked

40185

do not archive

---

planesmith(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: RV10 Axle Extensions

Tim & Don C



What I would like to see is a cap and shaft arrangement similar to the Cessna 150 front axle. The two caps take the place of the aluminum spacers we use but fit over the shaft end and are captured by the axle bolt. Bearing pre-load is set by using different thickness spacers.



A retro fit kit would consist of a shorter than stock shaft C two end caps and some spacers.



Vern Smith (#324)





 	  Quote: 	
		   Date: Sun C 19 Oct 2008 12:12:48 -0500

 From: Tim(at)MyRV10.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions

 

 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

 

...just like people who use the old stainless
	


 	  Quote: 	
		   spacers on the front axle.  If only someone (maybe you're

 up for it??) came up with a good retrofit kit that included

 anti-rotation stop screws 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 

 


	


Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. Learn Now  [quote][b]

Display posts from previous:

	Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> RV10-List	All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum