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		HShack(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				Last weekend, with the aid of a 40 mph tailwind,  I flew the 23 mile trip to the Boshears Fly In at Augusta Ga. in 15  minutes.  With 106 mph showing on the GPS, it was almost dream-like to be  passing cars on I-20.
   
  At pilot sign-in, I was asked if I wanted to be  judged; "Sure" I said.
   
  When award time rolled around, nobody came as I  sat anxiously by my plane. Judges must have not liked the old "Yellow  Devil".
   
  About a half hour later, one of the EAA judging  officials walked up & said "If you had N numbers you would have won Reserve  Grand Champion".  I advised that "she is an ultralite & don't need no  stinkin' N  numbers", to which he replied "It's too heavy".  I grinned  & said "Prove it" & he just grinned & walked  away.
   
  I wonder if I should jump through all the hoops  & pay the $$$  so I can get a $10 plaque...............  Naaah.
   
  Yeah, it's a fat FS II with one seat & 5 gal. tank.
   
  Flame away.
   
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				Sorry, I thought my signature would be on there.
   
  Howard  Shackleford
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   In a message dated 10/20/2008 11:34:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  HShack(at)aol.com writes:
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    Yeah, it's a fat FS II with one seat & 5 gal. tank.
     
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		Ralph B
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				HShack(at)aol.com 	  | Quote: | 	 		  Last weekend, with the aid of a 40 mph tailwind,  I flew the 23 mile trip to the Boshears Fly In at Augusta Ga. in 15  minutes.  With 106 mph showing on the GPS, it was almost dream-like to be  passing cars on I-20.
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  At pilot sign-in, I was asked if I wanted to be  judged; "Sure" I said.
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  When award time rolled around, nobody came as I  sat anxiously by my plane. Judges must have not liked the old "Yellow  Devil".
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  About a half hour later, one of the EAA judging  officials walked up & said "If you had N numbers you would have won Reserve  Grand Champion".  I advised that "she is an ultralite & don't need no  stinkin' N  numbers", to which he replied "It's too heavy".  I grinned  & said "Prove it" & he just grinned & walked  away.
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  I wonder if I should jump through all the hoops  & pay the $$$  so I can get a $10 plaque...............  Naaah.
   
  Yeah, it's a fat FS II with one seat & 5 gal. tank.
   
  Flame away.
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 Howard, you should be more discrete about advertising your illegal aircraft. This is no different than advertising that you are driving a vehicle without plates, only this is at the federal level, not the state level. A bit more serious than you think and not funny.
 
 Ralph
 
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		olendorf
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				On that note.  I have a web page for my Firestar and occasionally look at the statistics for it.  I see lots of hits to my web page coming from users on FAA's Internet Service Provider.  So there ARE people in the FAA that are looking at us. I'm sure there are a few reading these message boards.
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				Scott, the guys at FAA have to have something to do along with the  
 donuts and coffee.
 I doubt they are peering maliciously at us'ins.
 BB
 
 On 21, Oct 2008, at 1:58 PM, olendorf wrote:
 
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  On that note.  I have a web page for my Firestar and occasionally  
  look at the statistics for it.  I see lots of hits to my web page  
  coming from users on FAA's Internet Service Provider.  So there ARE  
  people in the FAA that are looking at us. I'm sure there are a few  
  reading these message boards.
 
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  Scott Olendorf
  Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
  Schenectady, NY
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  Read this topic online here:
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				HShack,
 
 I am with you on this one !   Weather your plane weighs 254 pounds or 410 pounds really does not affect anyone else...   Your firestar is still a single seat ultralight type airplane, even if it is a bit heavy.  Trying to make an unrealistic weight can make an airplane dangerous and structurally unsound.  The independent spirit and not liking being told what to do in every aspect of our lives is what this country was built on and what made this country great !    Unfortunately people in this country have no understanding of what freedom is anymore.    I would probably just put an N Number on it to keep the man off my back, but I do like your spirit !
 
 For those that done believe how this country has forgotten what freedom is, just look at the latest presidential polls as we head towards Socialism.
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				 	  | JetPilot wrote: | 	 		  HShack,
 For those that done believe how this country has forgotten what freedom is, just look at the latest presidential polls as we head towards Socialism.
 
 Mike | 	  
 
 Mike, while I may somewhat agree with you let's please keep any politics off the board...
 Thanks
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				Weather your plane weighs 254 pounds or 274 pounds really does not affect 
 anyone... >>
 
 I love it. Unfortunately any country, capitalist,socialist, fascist or what 
 have you which allows its members to pick and choose which particular bits 
 of the law they will bother to obey must inevitably descend into chaos.
 
 Enjoy while you can.
 
 Cheers
 
 Pat
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				Pat:
 Tell me what country is NOT  'descending into chaos'.  Mine sure is.
 NOW! -- Kolb-related; how's your Kolb?
 Russ
 PS You mean weather, or whether?
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  Weather your plane weighs 254 pounds or 274 pounds really does not  
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  I love it. Unfortunately any country, capitalist,socialist, fascist  
  or what have you which allows its members to pick and choose which  
  particular bits of the law they will bother to obey must inevitably  
  descend into chaos.
 
  Enjoy while you can.
 
  Cheers
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				and post some flying pics ...Pat....  Herb
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 Pat:
 Tell me what country is NOT  'descending into chaos'.  Mine sure is.
 NOW! -- Kolb-related; how's your Kolb?
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 PS You mean weather, or whether?
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 >Weather your plane weighs 254 pounds or 274 pounds really does not
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 >I love it. Unfortunately any country, capitalist,socialist, fascist
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 >Enjoy while you can.
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				At 04:42 PM 10/24/2008, you wrote:
 
  
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  I love it. Unfortunately any country, capitalist,socialist, fascist or what have you which allows its members to pick and choose which particular bits of the law they will bother to obey must inevitably descend into chaos.
 
  Enjoy while you can.
 
  Cheers
 
  Pat 
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  I agree - enjoy while you can. Our country is not as old as yours, but were getting the same diseases. 
 
  Possum
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  "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." 
 
  Quote by "Alexander Tyler". No, he wasn't writing about the United States. 
  This quote is well over one hundred years old. 
  Tyler was writing about the fall of the Athenian Republic. 
 
  Not to put too fine a point on it, but we are soon to be outnumbered. 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				At 07:15 PM 10/24/2008, possums wrote:
 
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  | "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure... | 	  
  That's why the United States was NEVER intended to be a democracy,  Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the word "democracy" found.  The Unites States is (or was) a constitutional republic, which is a very different thing.  It's slipping into democracy, though, due to a public that doesn't know the difference, and elected officials that don't care.
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				Dana,
   
  This is great......I pledge allegiance to the U.S.  republic (see U.S. constitution or Articles of Confederation of  the republic)  which ended in 1865.....after the north(federals) took  the south(confederates) by force.
   
  South Carolina withdrew from the  union.........Lincoln in his memoirs wrote that he would make the south fire the  first shot. As the union troops withdrew from Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor.  The south gave the northern soldiers a ride out to the U.S. navy who were  blockading the harbor. When the gunboats fired a warning shot (practice at sea  at the time) the navy sank and destroyed the little flotilla including their own  men who were evacuating the fort.
   
  The rest is history..............Slavery was the  political point............You know us Bad southerners( no one agrees with  slavery), but North and South were trading with slaves and cotton.
   
  I'm off my soapbox now.......LOL
   
   
   
   
  Wayne McCullough 
  Kolbra 004 (building)
   
  I love history and HATE the democracy ( and  politics) we have, but I still love our country for what it is  worth.
  My father (who served in WW2) cannot believe where  our morals have gone). He is 84. I'm 53.
   
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		Michael Sharp
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				You said it my brother!  
    
 You said it…  
    
 I’m looking for an island for the family and my Kolb..  I’ll send you flying pics when I can… LOL  
    
 Mike  
 Oak Grove Missouri  
 Mk III C  Zuki!  1.3  
    
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  Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:26 PM
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 At 07:15 PM 10/24/2008, possums wrote:
  
  
    
 "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure...  
 
  That's why the United States was NEVER intended to be a democracy,  Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the word "democracy" found.  The Unites States is (or was) a constitutional republic, which is a very different thing.  It's slipping into democracy, though, due to a public that doesn't know the difference, and elected officials that don't care.
  
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				Guys,
   
          Please keep  it Kolb-related.  There are plenty of other sites for  politics!
   
  Ed in JXN
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: 
 
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 This is going to be a test. I'll present the scenario and we'll see 
 who comes up with the solution that eventually solved a rather 
 perplexing problem on a friend's Kolb. Some of the data below may be 
 indirection so be careful.
 
 Kolb FS I , Rotax 377, points ign. Engine ran fine the year prior 
 which is the last time it was flown. Otherwise, engine started and 
 run once or twice a month but only up to temperature and only up to 
 1/3 throttle to keep it lubricated. Fuel system required all hoses to 
 be changed including primer line. Simplified system by taking out the 
 primer bulb but left the primer pump. Fuel pump rebuilt, neoprene 
 connector between carb and intake manifold replaced.
 
 When started and run up the engine failed to make full power hitting 
 about 5800 rpm full throttle static and showing signs of being too 
 lean since choke improved the situation but didn't make full power 
 even then. Suspected the filter, replaced, same result. Re checked 
 pulse pump, operating normally and providing sufficient fuel as 
 indicated by the choke application. Float bowl clean, no debris. Jets 
 were the same as before (remember, operated fine before) so no 
 change. Jet needle change made no difference.Carb disassembled, all 
 orifices blown out, floats checked good, float level checked good. 
 Timing cheacked good as did plug gap and points and condenser. Still 
 the same low power production aided with choke.
 
 Let's see if anyone can figure out what the problem really was. It 
 was a funky solution but worth passing on.......
 Jim Baker
 580.788.2779
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		Dana
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				How was the EGT, CHT, plugs?  Jets could need to be changed even if it ran 
 good before if the weather's different.  Also could be crankshaft seals, 
 cylinder base gaskets, fuel blockage upstream somewhere, or bad gas if 
 that's what was sitting in the tank for a year.
 
 -Dana
 
 At 10:15 PM 10/25/2008, Jim Baker wrote:
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  >         Please keep it Kolb-related.
 
 This is going to be a test. I'll present the scenario and we'll see
 who comes up with the solution that eventually solved a rather
 perplexing problem on a friend's Kolb. Some of the data below may be
 indirection so be careful.
 
 Kolb FS I , Rotax 377, points ign. Engine ran fine the year prior
 which is the last time it was flown. Otherwise, engine started and
 run once or twice a month but only up to temperature and only up to
 1/3 throttle to keep it lubricated. Fuel system required all hoses to
 be changed including primer line. Simplified system by taking out the
 primer bulb but left the primer pump. Fuel pump rebuilt, neoprene
 connector between carb and intake manifold replaced.
 
 When started and run up the engine failed to make full power hitting
 about 5800 rpm full throttle static and showing signs of being too
 lean since choke improved the situation but didn't make full power
 even then. Suspected the filter, replaced, same result. Re checked
 pulse pump, operating normally and providing sufficient fuel as
 indicated by the choke application. Float bowl clean, no debris. Jets
 were the same as before (remember, operated fine before) so no
 change. Jet needle change made no difference.Carb disassembled, all
 orifices blown out, floats checked good, float level checked good.
 Timing cheacked good as did plug gap and points and condenser. Still
 the same low power production aided with choke.
 
 Let's see if anyone can figure out what the problem really was. It
 was a funky solution but worth passing on.......
 
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		Possums
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				At 10:15 PM 10/25/2008, you wrote:
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  >         Please keep it Kolb-related.
 
 This is going to be a test. I'll present the scenario and we'll see
 who comes up with the solution that eventually solved a rather
 perplexing problem on a friend's Kolb. Some of the data below may be
 indirection so be careful.
 
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 If the holes in the bottom of these lines get clogged - the engine 
 will never run right.
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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				I'll bet on a air leak at the primer shaft
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		Jim Baker
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: I'm so disappointed...... | 
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 That was one of our thoughts as well so took the primer line off and 
 capped the barb...no change. Good try tho....
 
 Jim Baker
 580.788.2779
 Elmore City, OK
 
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