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dogsbark(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: cowl hinges

[quote]I'm just getting started with the cowl and associated hinges.  For those that used the stock hinge material....would you still use it if you did it again? How is it holding up? I seem to remember something mentioned of a heavier hinge material.  Or...would you switch to Skybolts?  I'm aware of the problem of the lower hinges losing ears, so I'll use an alternative approach there.Thanks in advance.Sean Blair#40225 [b]

ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: cowl hinges

Not flying yet, but if I did it again I would use proseal  between the hinge and cowl before rivetting.

  

 cheers,

 Ron

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		  I'm just getting started with the cowl and associated hinges.  For those that used the stock hinge material....would you still use it if you did it again? How is it holding up? I seem to remember something mentioned of a heavier hinge material.  Or...would you switch to Skybolts?  I'm aware of the problem of the lower hinges losing ears, so I'll use an alternative approach there.Thanks in advance.Sean Blair#40225 



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Tim Olson

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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: cowl hinges

I'd use it again. It seems to be holding up just fine, and it works

better than I thought it ever would.  I was a die-hard camloc

planner in the beginning but decided to give it a try and now

I'm very happy with the results.  Just don't use them on the

bottom section.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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dogsbark(at)comcast.net wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   *I'm just getting started with the cowl and associated hinges.  For

 those that used the stock hinge material....would you still use it if

 you did it again? How is it holding up? I seem to remember something

 mentioned of a heavier hinge material.  Or...would you switch to

 Skybolts?  I'm aware of the problem of the lower hinges losing ears,

 so I'll use an alternative approach there.*

 

 *Thanks in advance.*

 

 *Sean Blair*

 

 *#40225 *

dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: cowl hinges

If you use the hinges , be sure and cover the rivet heads with a glass tape

or see the heads work their way through the paint after some hours. 



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pascal(at)rv10builder.net
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: cowl hinges

what's wrong with using the hinges on the bottom section? what does one use 

for it's replacement?

Thx

Pascal



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From: "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:04 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: cowl hinges



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 I'd use it again. It seems to be holding up just fine, and it works

 better than I thought it ever would.  I was a die-hard camloc

 planner in the beginning but decided to give it a try and now

 I'm very happy with the results.  Just don't use them on the

 bottom section.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 dogsbark(at)comcast.net wrote:

> *I'm just getting started with the cowl and associated hinges.  For

> those that used the stock hinge material....would you still use it if

> you did it again? How is it holding up? I seem to remember something

> mentioned of a heavier hinge material.  Or...would you switch to

> Skybolts?  I'm aware of the problem of the lower hinges losing ears,

> so I'll use an alternative approach there.*

>

> *Thanks in advance.*

>

> *Sean Blair*

>

> *#40225 *

>

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: cowl hinges

Can you wait until you come up next month..... I'll show you what I did...

 Don



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		  From: pascal <pascal(at)rv10builder.net>

Subject: Re: cowl hinges

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 8:37 PM



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		  --> RV10-List message posted by: "pascal"

<pascal(at)rv10builder.net>



what's wrong with using the hinges on the bottom section? what does one use



for it's replacement?

Thx

Pascal



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From: "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:04 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: cowl hinges



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		   --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>



 I'd use it again. It seems to be holding up just fine, and it works

 better than I thought it ever would.  I was a die-hard camloc

 planner in the beginning but decided to give it a try and now

 I'm very happy with the results.  Just don't use them on the

 bottom section.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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 dogsbark(at)comcast.net wrote:

> *I'm just getting started with the cowl and associated hinges. 

For
	


 	  Quote: 	
		  > those that used the stock hinge material....would you still use it if

> you did it again? How is it holding up? I seem to remember something

> mentioned of a heavier hinge material.  Or...would you switch to

> Skybolts?  I'm aware of the problem of the lower hinges losing

ears,
	


 	  Quote: 	
		  > so I'll use an alternative approach there.*

>

> *Thanks in advance.*

>

> *Sean Blair*

>

> *#40225 *

>





 


	




	
	


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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: cowl hinges

There are a lot of choices to connect your cowl. On my -10 we went all out with the sky bolts but they are unreasonably expensive and heavy IMHO. An excellent alternative to piano hinges and sky bolts or locks is a simple stainless screw. My RV-6A cowl is held together with S/S screws and they work great, look good and can you can replace 5 of them for a quarter.   

   

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The cowl uses piano hinges along the vertical lower sides but S/S screws along the top, horizontal sides & the underside. I much prefer these to piano hinges.  

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rv(at)thelefflers.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: cowl hinges

Has anyone tried Carbinge hinges?  (http://www.carbinge.com/carbinge1.htm)

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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: cowl hinges

I used SkyBolts around the perimeter of the firewall and heavier hinge material for the two horizontal runs.  



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Lew Gallagher

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
Posts: 402
Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: Re: cowl hinges

After reading about cracked ears on the cowl hinges, we decided to go with camlocs all around the firewall, and it is sooo easy to mount/disassemble the cowl.  As others have said, it's a one man operation.  I didn't see the need to scallop -- the weight is negligible, it's easier, and stronger.



I was searching for ideas on anchoring the hinge pin at the intake (I KNOW I saw a whole picture display of close ups at OSH or something -- maybe Tim?  ... still can't find it!) and I ran across a reference to using a smaller hinge pin than the one that comes with the hinge.  Did I miss something?  I've been sweating getting that dang pin in, even with the extra length and an angle on the surplus, it's a really tight fit to get it all the way in.  With the bottom on first, if I put the tightest side hinge pin in first, thump it toward the other side, put the second pin in, then camloc it down -- it works.  Really snug!  I may just hand sand down the pin if folks are using a smaller pin. 



I've glassed in a tunnel from the entrance of the pin to the first ear (coated a scrap of pin with vasoline and glassed around it) so that I don't have to poke around hunting for that first ear.



Let me know if anyone knows where to find those pics of anchoring the pins.  I remember one guy in that thread said he'd fed his pin in through the cabin ... Wow!



Later, - Lew

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wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: cowl hinges

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		   I was searching for ideas on anchoring the hinge pin at the intake (I KNOW I saw a whole picture display of close ups at OSH or something -- maybe Tim?  ... still can't find it!) 


	


http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/HingePin/



William

http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/

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Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: cowl hinges

Composite hinges on composite cowls... A novel idea.  Kind of like metal

hinges and metal locks on metal cowls of yester year.



John Cox



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Lew Gallagher

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
Posts: 402
Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Re: cowl hinges

Thanks, William!



Yes, that was YOUR the site!  There are so many good sites, sometimes I get lost.



This should be fun.  And Ralph is sending me pictures on how he routed his through the cabin.



Later, - Lew

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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: cowl hinges

Here is a sweet pin cover:



Robin

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carl.froehlich(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: cowl hinges

I ran the hinge pins aft on my 8A.  They run though 1/4" aluminum tube to

out of sight bulkhead fittings under the panel.  I'll do the same on the 10.



Carl Froehlich



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