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hammer408(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

Gentlemen:



I've seen numerous e-mails, etc regarding panel labeling, but I really

didn't see comments regarding the "COLOR" of the lettering.  I've researched

thru various FAA sites, etc., and I couldn't find articles as to what the

"Legal" color for lettering should be (black, white).



I have a meduim Gray Panel (see attachment) and I'm leaning towards BLACK

Lettering...it stands out better.



I woud appreciate any feedback or suggestions.



Henry

Pittsburgh, Pa.

RV-9A - wiring started

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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

Greetings Henry,



    I will be using flat gray for my panel.  My experience has been that 

white stands out much better in a low light situation.  I think white will 

give better readability in low ambient light and allow me to have the 

instruments lights dimmer which will allow better night adaptation of my 

eyes.



Raymond Julian

Kettle River, MN



"Hope for the best,

but prepare for the worst."



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stein(at)steinair.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

Hi Henry,



I don't think there is an actual FAR for coloring of labels, but

conventional practice in the business (we do this for a living, so we see it

every day) is to use a contrasting color.  If the panel is light-use dark

labels, if the panel is dark - use light labels.  We see the most popular

panel colors as Black, Greys, Tan's/Beige and off white colors.  If we were

building your panel with the color you've attached, I'd really push you

towards black lettering for a number of reasons.



My 2 cents as usual!



Cheers,

Stein



Minneapolis, MN



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Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

SteinAir, Inc. a écrit :

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		     I'd really push you

 towards black lettering for a number of reasons.

   


	


I personally would tend to use white against medium gray for reasons of 

low light visibility.

Not everyone has the same perception under such conditions, so I'd 

conduct some tests in low light : what about visibility at dusk with no 

panel lights ? What about readability under fluorescent light or 

whatever is installed/employed for night lighting ?

I get the impression that white stand out better than dark figures, just 

like instrument numbers, but of course others may differ.



FWIW,

Best regards,

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GillesThesee

http://contrails.free.fr

wgill10(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

Henry,



Attached are a few examples from my project.



Bill

RV-7 N151WP



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gcomfo(at)tc3net.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

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stein(at)steinair.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

Hi Gilles,



I tend to respectfully disagree here.  White lettering on Gray panels is

notoriously poor under almost all conditions.  Unless the gray is fairly

dark (almost a charcoal color), white letters get washed out and lost, and

it happens in both high brightness and low brightness situations.  Night

time will highlight the differences even more. While you may lean towards

thinking white is better at night, if it's over a light base, the letters

get lost even quicker and worse than in bright light. It may be a bit

counter intuititve to first thought, but white letters on light panels just

doesn't work well at all for the most part.  The main goal is to get the

most contrast you cat between the base panel color and the lettering,

regardless of what those colors may be.  For example the best you can get on

black is to use silver lettering (it's even better than white).  On a dark

maroon panel it happens to be gold foil lettering.  Panels that are the most

difficult are brown and some dark colors like green and red.  Those are hard

to get any lettering that pops really well.  I think we've experimented and

painted almost every color in the rainbow over the hundreds of panels we've

painted/labeled.  I've seen the best and worst so I'm just passing along

what we've been exposed to.



My 2 cents as usual.



Cheers,

Stein



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jimw_btg(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

Henry good looking work what did you use to make these great job!



Jim Wickert

Vision #159



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Flagstone(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

Bill:



Would you mind posting details of how you made your labels.



Thanks

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hammer408(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: Sub Panel Labeling

Bill



I don't see your attachments?



Thanks



henry



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