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aldaniels(at)fmtc.com
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: DAR is wrong Reply with quote
The DAR is wrong. You can do all the work except the annual inspection
which is not due for a year until you get your repairman's certificate.
I can't believe he would tell you that nonsense. Call EAA, they can give
you chapter and verse. That is of course if it is experimental amateur
built. I am sure someone on the list will jump in with the FAR's. I will
in the AM if no one else has.

Lynn Matteson wrote:

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Thanks Brett and all...

Yeah I started after you, but I seem to recall that you have a job and
other time-consuming obligations, which I don't have, so I was able to
"give it a go" for big stretches of time at a time. Now it's time to go
after that Sport Pilot rating with great gusto so I can fly a few of
the mandated 40 hrs off myself, instead of watching someone else do
that.

Funny part about getting the AC though....the DAR says that because it
is now an airplane, I can't legally work on it, or make entries in the
log book regarding maintenance, until after the 40 is flown off, and I
have then turned in my maintenance paperwork, and in so doing, acquire
the permit to maintain it....strange, ain't it....I build the damn
thing, and now I can't work on it!...legally.

Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200

On Saturday, March 11, 2006, at 08:17 PM, Brett Walmsley wrote:



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>Way to go Lynn.
>You started after me. And I'm just hanging the engine. You really made
>good
>time.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: DAR is wrong Reply with quote
Definately! Lynn you can do everything except sign the annual which isn't
due for another year now that he's signed it off...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: DAR is wrong Reply with quote
It is Part 43 Section D I think. The only FAR's I have at home are AOPA
and they omit that section. I will get my full copy from the office. The
time you need to really work on your plane IS during the 40 hour fly
off. It is the exact time you need to debug and adjust. At a very
minimum you will need to re torque the prop bolts after an hour or so.
Every plane I have seen needs a little fine tuning and fixing a few
little things. This almost makes me mad and it could cause unnecessary
risk, and it has enough risk as it is. Suggestion. First flight is just
in and above the pattern, then land and check the plane over. If it
looks good and you are up to it fly it in a safe area for another half
hour or so and then take it to the hangar, kick everyone out, lock the
door, pull the cowl and look it over really well with a flashlight. Then
pull up a chair and just sit with her for half an hour or so thinking
about the sounds and vibrations of the flight. When you get completely
relaxed with her then you can let others in. EXTREME caution and
Attention to detail is required for safe test flying. If you are too
scared have someone with a lot of experience in the plane do the first
test flying, if you are not a little scared you are too stupid to do the
test flying. Attention to detail and a professional approach will do you
well.

flier wrote:

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Definately! Lynn you can do everything except sign the annual which isn't
due for another year now that he's signed it off...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: DAR is wrong Reply with quote
I just talked with the local FAA, and it happened that my DAR's boss
was in the office when I called, and he said he would have to correct
the DAR. Yes, I CAN work on the plane just as you have all said, and I
don't have to wait until the 40 hours is flown off to apply for it...in
fact I'm going over there tomorrow to turn in the paperwork for my
Repairman's Certificate.
Man, it's tough enough to get one of these things certified, without
having to wade through a bunch of wrong information.

Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
On Sunday, March 12, 2006, at 08:54 AM, flier wrote:

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Definately! Lynn you can do everything except sign the annual which
isn't
due for another year now that he's signed it off...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: DAR is wrong Reply with quote
The list wins again. YES.

Be safe

Alan

Lynn Matteson wrote:

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I just talked with the local FAA, and it happened that my DAR's boss
was in the office when I called, and he said he would have to correct
the DAR. Yes, I CAN work on the plane just as you have all said, and I
don't have to wait until the 40 hours is flown off to apply for it...in
fact I'm going over there tomorrow to turn in the paperwork for my
Repairman's Certificate.
Man, it's tough enough to get one of these things certified, without
having to wade through a bunch of wrong information.

Lynn






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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: DAR is wrong Reply with quote
Good for you Lynn. I thought DARs were thoroughly knowledgable types that
were accepted because of special experience or training, like the old timer
Tech Counselors that have hung around EAA chapters for several lifetimes.
Sounds not.

Lowell
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: DAR is wrong Reply with quote
I guess so, Lowell. He seemed to be right on top of everything else,
but he missed the gun on that call. Incidentally, I just got back from
visiting the good people at the FAA, and got my temporary Repairmen's
Certificate, so I'm good in that respect. The FAA guy told me that
things are changing so fast that it's tough for even them to keep up,
let alone somebody that doesn't work right there in the offices. This
FAA office is right on the Willow Run Airport, where they used to make
the B-25's during the war.

Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200

On Monday, March 13, 2006, at 05:36 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:

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Good for you Lynn. I thought DARs were thoroughly knowledgable types
that
were accepted because of special experience or training, like the old
timer
Tech Counselors that have hung around EAA chapters for several
lifetimes.
Sounds not.

Lowell



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