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deneals(at)deneals.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

On 12/31/08 10:26 AM, "Dan Farmer" <daniellfarmer(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

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 Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!  Only 20 more days until utopia. 

 The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money.   That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants.  Please someone just take care of me.  There Ive said it.  Yes I am pissed that we are running towards  European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. 

 

 God Help us from ourselves.

 df

 

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Dan:

 

 Thanks for your vast knowledge in this matter.

 

 I know many people who voted for Obama who are hard working and have executive jobs as well as some voters working blue collar jobs.

 

 It is good to know that everyone who voted Republican are hard workers and Democratic voters are lazy citizens.

 

 Thanks for the enlightenment.

 

 I’m very thankful this holiday season to know you are all-knowing and have everything under control for all of us.

 

 I don’t know how I could have been so mistaken.  Oh yes and I thought it was socialist the the Republican president is allowing the government to own preferred stock in private banks...  Oops I guess now they are quasi private quasi government banks.

 

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 Deneal Schilmeister, ATP Learjet

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dongirod

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 140

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

I BELIEVE THIS FALL UNDER, "THIS TO SHALL  PASS"

  

  

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jtaddington(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

Dan, do I ever agree. I would like to go back to the 50’s when crooks were crooks and victims were the good guys. This country was founded on if you don’t work you don’t eat.  

Jim A  

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From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan  Farmer

 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:27 AM

 To: commander-list-digest(at)matronics.com

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   Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW   YEAR!!!  Only 20 more days until utopia. 

   The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs,   all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our   ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money.   That   seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants.  Please someone just take   care of me.  There Ive said it.  Yes I am pissed that we are   running towards  European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse   course towards more self sufficiency. 

   

   God Help us from ourselves.

   df

   

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

A very prosperous and blessed New Year to you all.  

 Nico

  

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dongirod

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 140

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

Gentlemen;

  

 I fail to see any reason to go from an opinion, and  that is how I view Dan's comments to a personal attack on an  individual.

  

 Please, we gain nothing!

  

 Don

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steve2(at)sover.net
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

What a nice holiday wish!   

  

 What a surprise, the perpetually angry  white wealthy guys don't think anything is wrong except with everyone else.  It must feel very good to know you're always right about everything, don't make  mistakes, and that you hate all the right people. You're the only people  who work hard, love their Country and love their Constitution. And God is behind  only you. Anyone disagreeing with you is feared, hated, despised as a traitor,  or insane.

  

 You guys need fear and hate..... Use it, or my  gosh.... you might have to bear responsibility and actually have to work with  people for solutions. Much easier to blame everything on the gays, or the  blacks, or the jews, the democrats, the socialists, the commies.....  

  

 Seems like we might need to tweak gument a little.  Some things didn't work out so good. Though I spose if your main concern is putting gas into your twin-engined  aircraft, everything probably looks just fine.

  

 Steve

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

I'd like to chime  in, politely, since many people are bent on this. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =  "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> 

  

Obama is now our  president. I'll respect him for that. I believe the job molds the man, too. Some  of his campaign rhetoric was just plain stupid and shame on the people for  allowing any politician to dupe  them in that manner. It's as if the  people are clicking into idiot-mode when they listen to political campaign  speeches.  

  

But there is  nothing anyone can do about it  now. Obama is our president and  there is hope, too: Hope that the job will mold the man and that the ignorance he displayed during  his campaign will be replaced by hard-core  reality. He is already flip-flopping to the reality side on issues that  will definitely irritate those who  voted for him on socialist issues. He is already rethinking tax increases in  this economy (which begs the question, if tax increases are bad in a bad  economy, why would it be good in a good economy), he is already showing a hard  stance on the Palestinian issue as opposed to his ignorant utterances on  Georgia, and so on. So, I see positive moves and I route for him to make  more such moves and not remain stuck on his positions expressed during the  campaign.  

  

It is us who are in  the accuser's box for allowing politicians to move all over the political  spectrum buying in to that nonsense. But the process is what it is and it wasn't  first tried here in the U.S. Even in Roman times 2,000 years ago people  complained about the same things we do today. So, it's been around for a while.  It is, however, healthy to analyze,  self-audit and consider  where we stand in terms of the manner in which we practice our politics  and make corrections if we are found to be at fault.  

  

For instance,  during Bush 43's term, hatred, wicked lies, and vile rhetoric did more damage to  the country than anything the president ever did. The practitioners of these  despicable acts acted without regard for this nation and they were ready to  inflict damage beyond any measure. When the war, for which these same adulterers  of the truth voted, turned difficult, as wars oftentimes do, the personal trade  in misinformation and vitriol escalated beyond belief. What would have been the  correct and less costly (in terms of dollars and lives) response? I believe it  was Trent Lott (could be wrong about the name but it was a Republican senator)  that said, "We are not going to criticize a sitting president in time of war"  after Bill Clinton launched a war, far less justified than Iraq, for dubious  reasons and fiercely criticized by Republicans. That was the right and mature  thing to do when one has this nation's best interests at heart and consider  the office of the president above  one's own interests. Bush is now bending over backwards to mitigate the damage  of a failing economy (a disaster which the operators of Obama's party created)  for the new president and make his transition to power as smoothly as possible  for the sake of the nation, not particularly for Obama the individual nor the  Democratic Party. Compare that to Bill Clinton and his cronies who tried to  cause as much damage as they could to make it as difficult as possible for Bush  to transit to power. The petty crime of stealing all the W-keys off the  keyboards was rather humorous, but it was an illustration of a much deeper  resentment for this nation than what the deed demonstrated. We should not  believe for a moment their attacks were against G.W. personally. It was and  still is against this nation and its institutions. And that would cause  emotions to flare up but we should refrain from becoming like them. My position  has always been, honest and necessary opposition excluded, their acts and  philosophy are anti-American and foreign to our culture, much like pathogens  that consist of healthy tissue in their own right but they are lethal to the  host in their purpose.  

  

We should also  learn who we are opposing here. Many good, patriotic and loyal citizens are  demagogued because they are Democrats, and we're wasting energy and resources  that ought to be directed at the pathogens of our society -- those who  wouldn't think twice to destroy the principles on which this unique and  excellent nation was built. This cancer that  already left Europe incapacitated, on life-support and in intensive care  is already evident here.  

 

  

Two decades or so  ago one could have made a case that the Democratic Party provided a safe haven  for those pathogens, but that is not the case at all today; it is as rife and  perhaps more dangerous in the Republican Party than anywhere else because we  wouldn't expect to receive siren-songs from that corner. In my opinion that was  more of a cause why so many conservatives voted for Obama than anything  else. Even though he had nothing but  rhetoric, he was basically an empty suit,  but what he didn't have was what made him a more palatable choice than the  Republican candidate, who was chosen  by our opponents. Unfortunately, it will take a revolution in the  Democratic and Republican parties for the new president to be fully  molded to reality and that is where the rub lies. Will Obama be a realist and buck the objectives of  the pathogens in his party? Will the  Republicans have the courage to rid itself of the pathogens in its system?  We have no choice but to wait and see. The captain will board the ship on  the 20th of next month and he will set sail as he sees fit. We should not chop  holes in the ship if we don't like him, like the pathogens did to Captain Bush.   

  

The Christian's  position is that all authority is given by Christ as revealed in the Bible  alone, not the Quran, or the Kama Sutra or some hieroglyphic stone-inscription.  Unbelievers ought not to get all bent out of shape because of this, it is what the Christian doctrine teaches and  you don't have to believe it to acknowledge it.  If Obama is president because of the will of Christ, then we should  show him the respect of the office he holds for the sake of Christ who put  him there. It is, then, also unavoidable to conclude that there is a purpose for  which Obama has been raised up to be our leader at this time. We cannot fully  know what that purpose is, but we can certainly, respectfully, speculate.  Perhaps the Democratic and Republican parties have to be split wide open  separating the pathogens from the healthy tissue of our nation, much like a  surgeon would cut cancerous cells away from healthy tissue to save the  patient. I firmly believe that God  retracted, for a time, the effective presence of the Holy Spirit from us as  a nation, which allowed evil to do what it naturally does, flourishing wildly,  resulting in the attack on 9/11 to come over us (speculating:) to reveal the  evil among us as it became evident in the aftermath;  (speculating:)  to split the Muslims into two camps, those who are still functioning in a 7th  century culture and those that tasted liberty, in the U.S.; (speculating:)  to bring reality to those nations that would have supported terrorism  believing it's politically correct to do so; (speculating:) to bring the issue  of evil among us to the public forum.   

  

I don't believe that Obama has been called to  inflict so much damage on our nation that there will be a second civil war  required to heal our nation. There are too many believers that will be  consumed in the process if we consider Abraham's petition before God regarding  Sodom. Neither do I believe that Obama will be so far off reality that he will  not diligently protect our nation, in the  mold of President Bush, from terrorist  attacks on home-soil. (There are  already moves afoot to maintain the surveillance program that had the pathogens  so up in arms when Bush practiced it.) What is certain, is that the next  two- and four-year periods will be  deciding watersheds for our nation, given  to heal us; we should act accordingly, and decisively, without fear, but always  honorably. If the surgeon hesitates, the  patient is lost. 

  

That is my New  Year's message to you all. Thank you all for being aviators, lovers of all things nautical and of the atmosphere  which carries us aloft at great speeds with vistas unimaginable a mere century  before. Thank you for being lovers of Aero Commanders, great ships that brought  pleasure to so many.  

  

May God bless you  all.  

  

Nico 

 

  

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

I second that opinion, keep the emotions in  check!

 Tom

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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN  It will be a sad day for us all, even those who voted them in.  We will soon have Gypsies in the palace.  jb

 

 

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bobf(at)feldtman.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

who is John Galt?



suggest all read Atlas shrugged - I'm ready to shrug



bobf



On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:16 PM,  <yourtcfg(at)aol.com (yourtcfg(at)aol.com)> wrote:

 [quote]AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN  It will be a sad day for us all, even those who voted them in.  We will soon have Gypsies in the palace.  jb 

 

 

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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

So well said, Thank you so much  jb

 

 

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John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

Well "bowser" is a slighty more esoteric word. I KNOW who John Galt 

is...he's the man who stopped the motor of the world!



On 12/31/2008 7:21 PM, Robert Feldtman wrote:

[quote] who is John Galt?



 suggest all read Atlas shrugged - I'm ready to shrug



 bobf



 On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:16 PM, <yourtcfg(at)aol.com 

 <mailto:yourtcfg(at)aol.com>> wrote:



     AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN  It will be a sad day for us all, even

     those who voted them in.  We will soon have Gypsies in the

     palace.  jb



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bobf(at)feldtman.com
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:41 am Post subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

you read all 1100 pages - to the end!



bobf



On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:46 PM, John Vormbaum <john(at)vormbaum.com (john(at)vormbaum.com)> wrote:

 [quote]--> Commander-List message posted by: John Vormbaum <john(at)vormbaum.com (john(at)vormbaum.com)>

  

 Well "bowser" is a slighty more esoteric word. I KNOW who John Galt is...he's the man who stopped the motor of the world!

 

 On 12/31/2008 7:21 PM, Robert Feldtman wrote:

 

[quote] who is John Galt?

 

 suggest all read Atlas shrugged - I'm ready to shrug

 

 bobf

 



 On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:16 PM, <yourtcfg(at)aol.com (yourtcfg(at)aol.com) <mailto:yourtcfg(at)aol.com (yourtcfg(at)aol.com)>> wrote:

 

     AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN  It will be a sad day for us all, even

     those who voted them in.  We will soon have Gypsies in the

     palace.  jb

 

 

 

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