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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Old Engine Reply with quote

Got a strange engine today:

New in box. New wood propeller. Prop is 48" x 22. Engine labeled Chrysler Power Bee model 82026. Single cylinder, dual carb, 2 cycle. Carbs are Tillotsons with built on fuel pumps. Belt redrive labeled CGS Powerhawk. Engine and redrive weigh about 20 lbs together. Some of the spec sheets are dated 1978, and show how to mount on an Easy Riser.  A tag on the engine says it was test run to 90 pounds thrust.
Anyone know the history on this engine? And........this is off the wall..........how would it work on a Kolb UltraStar?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Old Engine Reply with quote

Masqqqqqq, It's a go kart engine, about 8 or 9 HP. I had a Soarmaster power pack for my hang glider with one in the mid 70's. When the supply of Mac 101 engines, the original engine used by John Moody and CGS, everyone switched to the West bend. If it matches the one I had you can expect a 50 to 60 fpm climb rate. If you got it cheap, try it. You'll get some taxi practice at the least.

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Got a strange engine today:

New in box. New wood propeller. Prop is 48" x 22. Engine labeled Chrysler Power Bee model 82026. Single cylinder, dual carb, 2 cycle. Carbs are Tillotsons with built on fuel pumps. Belt redrive labeled CGS Powerhawk. Engine and redrive weigh about 20 lbs together. Some of the spec sheets are dated 1978, and show how to mount on an Easy Riser. A tag on the engine says it was test run to 90 pounds thrust.
Anyone know the history on this engine? And........this is off the wall..........how would it work on a Kolb UltraStar?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Old Engine Reply with quote

At 08:56 PM 1/8/2009, Masqqqqqqq(at)aol.com wrote:
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Got a strange engine today:

New in box. New wood propeller. Prop is 48" x 22. Engine labeled Chrysler Power Bee model 82026. Single cylinder, dual carb, 2 cycle. Carbs are Tillotsons with built on fuel pumps. Belt redrive labeled CGS Powerhawk. Engine and redrive weigh about 20 lbs together. Some of the spec sheets are dated 1978, and show how to mount on an Easy Riser. A tag on the engine says it was test run to 90 pounds thrust.
Anyone know the history on this engine? And........this is off the wall..........how would it work on a Kolb UltraStar?

It would definitely not be adequate for an UltraStar, unless you used two of them, and even then it'd be marginal... I believe the original Kolb Flyer used these engines before switching to 15HP Solo 210 engines. I remember sending away to Chrysler for the data sheets back in the day, when I started building a Lazair-like ultralight (never finished) while on summer vacation from college. IIRC, the Chrysler (also known as the West Bend) engine was only about 9HP continuous.

Single cylinder, dual carb? That's weird... perhaps it was hopped up to get more horsepower; 9HP is pretty marginal to fly with.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Old Engine Reply with quote

The 12 HP Chrysler single cylinder is the engine I had on my first ultralight, which was the first weight shift Eipper Quicksilver. Mine also had the dual carbs into one cylinder and was advertised as 12 HP. My Eipper Quicksilver with engine weighed around 150 pounds, 300 pounds total with me in it, and it flew well. Stall was 17 MPH, Climb was 20 MPH, and cruise was about 22 MPH. The engine was just enough to fly 300 pounds gross at around 20 MPH.

I seriously doubt this engine would be able to get a Kolb, or just about any other faster / heavier ultralight to even break ground.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Old Engine Reply with quote

I used to fly one of these on a Quick weight shift,back in 82. I installed elbows and velocity stacks facing foward to get a little more power out of it.I was 135lb at the time,plane was 130(yeah,I weighed it) Wes supposed to put out 15hp.I WOULD NEVER PUT THIS ON AN ULTRASTAR.Not very reliable. First landing was dead stick(or shift?)Get a good engine and dont waste your time,not worth it. Mark
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