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JAPhillipsGA(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: Replace Aileron Controls

Fellows 601XL Builders and Flyers. Well, I finally finished up  on removing the cables from my XL ailerons and replacing them with push pull  tubes. Total cost was about $ 100. and took about a whole weekend to complete.  Sure would have been easier to install them while building. I made a test flight  Saturday morning and I was very pleased with the results. Control is quicker and  more solid to the touch. At slow flight, in the pattern and steep turns it was  more responsive. At greater speeds the ailerons were about as stiff and heavy as  they ever were. I went up to 2,500 feet and took her up to 155 mph and gave her  some shakes trying to see if a flutter could be caused and nothing. Lastly,  the weigh difference is the push/pull rod system weighs 14.2 ounces more than  the wire system. I didn't write up what I did or the materials nor have I taken  any photos, but if a ground swell of interest and excitement occurs along with a  bunch of pledges to buy me beer at Sun N Fun Bar B Q this spring I might be  persuaded to put together an "How & What". Best regards, Bill of  Georgia



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jbrumpt(at)activ8.net.au
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:01 am Post subject: Replace Aileron Controls

Bill

 I certainly would be interested if we can twist your  arm

 Thanks

 John

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sky_ranger161

Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 91

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: Replace Aileron Controls

Hey Bill,



Count me in for a beer! I'd love to see more details on your "cable to pushrod" mod.



Thanks!



Debo Cox

Nags Head. NC

www.mykitlog.com/debo



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Replace Aileron Controls

Consider the ground swelling. I'd really like to see how you did it and a materials and any other instructions.



I won't be a Sun N Fun but I have little doubt that we will cross paths in the future and if we do the info will be worth several beers.

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eldenej(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: Replace Aileron Controls

There are a bunch of us, I suspect, that at a minimum would very much like to see what you have done; my wings, at this moment, are still open.

  

 Elden Jacobson

 xl/3300

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Subject: Re: Replace Aileron Controls

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Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 2:13 PM



  Fellows 601XL Builders and Flyers. Well, I finally finished up on removing the cables from my XL ailerons and replacing them with push pull tubes. Total cost was about $ 100. and took about a whole weekend to complete. Sure would have been easier to install them while building. I made a test flight Saturday morning and I was very pleased with the results. Control is quicker and more solid to the touch. At slow flight, in the pattern and steep turns it was more responsive. At greater speeds the ailerons were about as stiff and heavy as they ever were. I went up to 2,500 feet and took her up to 155 mph and gave her some shakes trying to see if a flutter could be caused and nothing. Lastly, the weigh difference is the push/pull rod system weighs 14.2 ounces more than the wire system. I didn't write up what I did or the materials nor have I taken any photos, but if a ground swell of interest and excitement occurs along with a bunch of  pledges to buy me beer at Sun N Fun Bar B Q this spring I might be persuaded to put together an "How & What". Best regards, Bill of Georgia



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rfulmer1(at)triad.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: Replace Aileron Controls

Hi:

  

 You can count me in on that beer and ground swell  too.....would love to see the method and material package.

  

 Bob Fulmer

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PatrickW

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 380
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Replace Aileron Controls

I'm interested.  



Thanks,



- Pat

paulrod36(at)msn.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: Replace Aileron Controls

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Sounds very good, Bill.        For those  of us who can't make S&F, the basics, (length of tube, material, method of  attaching ball ends) would sure be helpful.

  

 Paul Rodriguez

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jonaburns

Joined: 23 May 2007
Posts: 32

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Replace Aileron Controls

I am for sure interested.  It should help the autopilot as well...



Thanks,



Jon Burns

Little Elm, TX

Thruster87

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 193
Location: Australia

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Replace Aileron Controls

Would like to see some pics as my wing skins have not yet been riveted and I'm keen to go the push pull rod path as well.[the Europa from England has been using push/pull rods with great success for years] Cheers

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