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		p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Zenith pre-drilled hole problem. | 
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				I don't know exactly why I am addressing this subject now, but a 
 recent comment on the poor workmanship from Zenith got me started.
 
 I recently had to scrap an entire wing on my XL.  I thought it was 
 poor locations of predrilled holes, but after plenty of rethinking I 
 have changed my mind.
 
 My problem was in locating the leading edge skin properly.  The 
 directions say to align the center of the bend with the reference 
 line on the nose ribs.  Unfortunately, the reference line is not 
 something we kit builders have on our ribs - that is something that 
 exists only on the form blocks for the ribs.  In the end I drilled 
 some really poorly located holes in the spar angle and learned after 
 several weeks of correspondence that the angle was toast.  I was 
 offered the opportunity to take the whole wing apart, send the spar 
 to Canada for repair and rebuild it.  I opted to just scrap it and start over.
 
 On my other wing I whined at ZAC about the hole locations in the rear 
 top skin.  Roger had me measure the locations of all the holes to 
 find the problem.  It turns out only the last row of holes in the 
 skin were off.  My realization after a while is that the holes are 
 drilled using perfect assumptions about how the ribs will be located 
 on the spar, but as a human being I didn't locate the ribs perfectly 
 so the "Perfect" predrilled holes in the skin didn't match my wing 
 skeleton.  My conclusion was that since the holes that locate the 
 ribs on the spars are not predrilled it is a kit design error to have 
 the holes in the skin predrilled.   Fortunately, I was able to order 
 replacement skins without the holes for my next attempt.  I am sure I 
 can drill the holes in a blank skin where they should be to match my 
 wing skeleton.  I probably saved some money on the skins from ZAC too.
 
 One other think I learned in this whole fiasco is that ZAC doesn't 
 make the spars that go in the XL kit - Zenair does.  I don't know how 
 far this practice goes, but I suspect Zenair (a Canadian company) 
 makes all the spars for all the Zenith kits.
 
 I hope this helps someone.  My first wing is beyond repair, but I am 
 having fun building more wings without any reference to the 
 instructions.  The process is going very smoothly for me.
 
 Paul
 XL wings
 
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		agustafson(at)chartermi.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:41 am    Post subject: Zenith pre-drilled hole problem. | 
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				Yea!! for the continuing education of kit builders!  Scratch builders avoid 
 all this but lack one important thing.  SOMEONE TO PASS THE BUCK TO!
 Just a little humor for a Sunday morning.
 Aaron    do not archive
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   I recently had to scrap an entire wing on my XL.
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   My realization after a while is that the holes are
  drilled using perfect assumptions about how the ribs will be located
  on the spar, but as a human being I didn't locate the ribs perfectly
  so the "Perfect" predrilled holes in the skin didn't match my wing
  skeleton.
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   I am sure I  can drill the holes in a blank skin where they should be to 
  match my
  wing skeleton.
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   One other think I learned in this whole fiasco is that ZAC doesn't
  make the spars that go in the XL kit - Zenair does.  I don't know how
  far this practice goes, but I suspect Zenair (a Canadian company)
  makes all the spars for all the Zenith kits.
 
  but I am  having fun building more wings without any reference to the
  instructions. 
 
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		naumuk(at)alltel.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject: Zenith pre-drilled hole problem. | 
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