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		ianwilson2
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Starter Motor Earth Cable | 
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				Has anyone seem/implemented Jabiru's JSL 005-1 about adding an earth cable from the back of the starter body?  I don't really want to add another heavyish cable to the front end if it's not going to make much difference, so I'd welocme the groups experience as to whether this is a change that makes any difference!
 
 Many thanks.
 
 Ian Wilson
 
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
  Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 2778 Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:52 am    Post subject: Starter Motor Earth Cable | 
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				I did it...I didn't NEED to do it, but I did it anyway, just to be  
 safe. I used 2 braided and tinned copper straps about 1/2" wide,  
 attached terminals on both ends, and installed. I'd never had a  
 starting problem before but just wanted to be sure...and I was  
 running out of things to fiddle with. : )
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
 Sensenich 62x46
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 New skis done and flying
 
 
 On Jan 21, 2009, at 5:15 AM, ianwilson2 wrote:
 
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  Has anyone seem/implemented Jabiru's JSL 005-1 about adding an  
  earth cable from the back of the starter body?  I don't really want  
  to add another heavyish cable to the front end if it's not going to  
  make much difference, so I'd welocme the groups experience as to  
  whether this is a change that makes any difference!
 
  Many thanks.
 
  Ian Wilson
 
 
  Read this topic online here:
 
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 25965#225965
 
 
 
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		jcrowder(at)lpbroadband.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Starter Motor Earth Cable | 
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				I am currently Installing a 3300 on my Kitfox 5.  I just installed the
 engine ground cable at that point on the starter instead of on the engine
 block.  My thinking is that that is where the greatest current demand
 occurs.  I guess I will see how that works out.
 
 Jim Crowder
 
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		Peter H
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Starter Motor Earth Cable | 
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				Ian,
 I reported 18 months ago that the two assembly bolts which clamp and retain
 the starter were getting hot. The earth return is by means of these two
 bolts but they are set in Loctite and there is a voltage drop because of
 high resistance.
 I fitted a separate earth strap and got better performancxe from the
 starter.
 Peter  
 
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		ianwilson2
 
 
  Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 33 Location: France
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: Starter Motor Earth Cable | 
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				Thanks Lynn, Jim and Peter for the information.  Lynn, I can't see that you will ever run out of things to fiddle with  
 
 OK, so given that I need to add a strap to the starter, how do I get the bolts off without shearing them?  I'm in contact with another builder of the same plane as me and he's just done this on his 2200.  He tried heating the bolts to loosen the Loctite, but the bolts still sheared.  Now, not only does he have to find some new bolts, he also has to take the casting to a specialist shop for them to remove the broken bolts.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Again, many thanks for your responses.
 
 Ian
 
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		dhonabach
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Starter Motor Earth Cable | 
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				Maybe I just got lucky, but in moving the ground wire for the starter, I
 didn't have any problems with the bolt and shearing, etc.
 
 I'd also recommend moving the ground wire or adding the strap for the
 starter. I was actually having issues with mine and moving the ground
 wire resolved the issue.
 Don
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