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leinad

Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

Nicely done Bill!

Dan Dempsey, working on wings

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

Looks likea great mod. A query on the tube size for the push rods Bill. Tube size 1.1/8 inch OD .49 wall thickness Cis that .49 of an inch?

  

 Rob Taylor.

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 From: wrgiacona(at)gmail.com

 Date: Tue C 27 Jan 2009 13:24:22 -0800

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com>

 

 First and foremost. Thank you Bill. You have really added a heck of a nice piece of data to the 601 community with this.

 

 Second. Just so I can add a little something I've converted it to a pdf file for those that don't have Word and that is attached.

 

 Finally Joe Ham. Check your e-mail a copy should be there shortly.

 

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 See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

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mcjon77

Joined: 17 May 2008
Posts: 55
Location: Chicago

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

I'm not a Zodiac builder, but I just had to comment that this is the kind of innovation and information sharing that has drawn me to the homebuilding community.  



Bill, you should SERIOUSLY consider submitting your article to either the new "Experimenter" e-magazine from the EAA or "Sport Aviation".  We really need more articles from people showing their innovative solutions and modifications to their homebuilt aircraft.  I'm sure your article can be valuable to others, beyond those reading this list.  Thanks for the great work.

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

I'm curious as to why you used 049 wall and not the same as van's uses? I  saw where you took material off the tube end? Do you know what thickness that  ended up? I would think a thinner tube and not taking any material off the tube  end would not weaken the end that you are exerting force to would be better. I  am going to do this mod on the 601 I'm building and already have some tube  ends left over from a rv3 I built.

  

 Jeff

  

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		  Looks    likea great mod. A query on the tube size for the push rods Bill. Tube size    1.1/8 inch OD .49 wall thickness,is that .49 of an  inch?

	


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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

Jeff, I would have preferred to use the exact size tube I used  in the building of my RV-8a, but there was some logistical problems. The RV-8  uses a 1 1/8 tube at  with .35 walls making the threaded insert plug too  thick without machining for the thicker wall tube I purchased at Spruce. Also I  needed about 94 inches of tube and finding T6 that long this side of the  Mississippi was difficult and Van's did not sell it that long so I compromised  and used tube with .014  thicker walls meaning I had to remove that much  material from the threaded plugs I purchased from Van's. Also as the rods for  the XL are almost 20 inches longer than the RV

 rods and aileron forces are greater with the XL's unbalanced  aileron the thicker walled rod is desirable. I'm not an engineer so I am unable  to refine the necessary difference so like most men I over build. Hope this  answers your query and best regards, Bill

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

Jon, thanks for your comment. I figure I have exposed myself  enough now they'll probably throw me out of the witness protection program as it  is. Hope the article helps you and good luck,  Bill

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

Dan, thanks for your thoughtfulness. I appreciate your  comment. Best regards, Bill

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Gig Giacona

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: Re: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

Just to add to the many places that you can find Bill's fine work I have kind of added it to my web site. At the moment there isn't a in site link to it but it can be read or downloaded at the following address.



http://peoamerica.net/N601WR/Rods.pdf

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:49 am Post subject: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

Bill, thanks for sharing the information with such detail.



Have you obtained ZAC's blessing for the modification?

Carlos

CH601-HD, plans



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2009/1/27  <JAPhillipsGA(at)aol.com (JAPhillipsGA(at)aol.com)>

 [quote]     Dave and Fellow 601 Builders & Flyers, I've sent and  posted the Aileron Control Rod conversion saga about half a dozen places so far,  but I don't really know where it'll end up for viewing and down load. Hopefully  somebody who knows just the right localtion to place it for easy viewing will  grab it up. When you see it and if your not too pissed off at me and you have  any questions write me and I'll be happy to help. Best regards, Bill of  Georgia



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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

Your welcome, Bill

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: CH601 XL Aileron Push Rods.

THE Aileron push rod conversion is now on www.ch601.org in the builders resources section.  

     

Mark Townsend  Alma, Ontario  

Zodiac CH650 C-GOXL, CH701 Rotax 912,  

STOL CH750 Just started  

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