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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Anyone have info how they mounted wing tip stro Reply with quote

Any ideas on how to filter out 100 milivolt spike that is very very sharp with a duration of ~ 75 miliseconds coming from Kuntzleman strobe power supply, then radiating from power lines and getting into my antenna?

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Getting closer to resolve to my tick, tick, ticking coming from Kuntzleman strobe. First off It is the Vertex VXA-700 that breaks squelch. I called factory today and they said when you put an aircraft antenna on them, they are sensative.

Next is high voltage from power supply, believe it or not, using the shielded cable from Kuntzleman, dosen't matter much if you have 1 foot or 25 feet, it just dosen't radiate that much.

The power supply radiates a lot no matter how you ground things, but 8 feet away with antenna under worst case and 6 feet away under best case fixes tick, tick, ticking. So power supplies will live in wingtips away from antennas.

The power wires are the culprit at the moment! First off I am running Vertex on internal battery so it is not dirty radio supply power causing problem, it is RF jumping off the supply lines getting into antenna!

Using shielded wire for supply has more RF jumping off compared to twisted pair no matter how I grounded shield! Can't explain it but it is so.

Using twisted pair with optimum grounding, now has ticking only happening on lower and higher frequencies.

Observing supply power at battery on a scope, there are very very sharp spikes 100 milivolts, with a duration of about 75 miliseconds that equate perfectly to Vertex VXA-700 breaking squelch.

Anyone have any ideas on how I can filter this out? And where to get parts needed?

I guess I will need two filters, one for each power supply at the wingtips.

Ron P.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Anyone have info how they mounted wing tip stro Reply with quote

rparigoris wrote:
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The power supply radiates a lot no matter how you ground things, but 8 feet away with antenna under worst case and 6 feet away under best case fixes tick, tick, ticking. So power supplies will live in wingtips away from antennas.

The power wires are the culprit at the moment! First off I am running Vertex on internal battery so it is not dirty radio supply power causing problem, it is RF jumping off the supply lines getting into antenna!

Ron

have you seen this web site? might be relevant?
Graham
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Anyone have info how they mounted wing tip stro Reply with quote

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<rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us>

Any ideas on how to filter out 100 milivolt spike that is very very
sharp with a duration of ~ 75 miliseconds coming from Kuntzleman
strobe power supply, then radiating from power lines and getting into
my antenna?

Run the power leads through a torroid, and put a capacitor on both ends
between the power lines.
Maybe just installing a capacitor of 100n over the power lines as close
as possible to the strobe power supply is already enough. If not, add
the torroids and more capacitors.

Ground the radio and the strobe power supply preferably at the same
spot. Use twisted pair power supply's. Do not power anything else from
the same leads (like nav lights).

Also, disconnect the antenna to find out if the receiver still picks up
the noise. If so, the noise comes in via the radio power supply. Use the
same filter (torroid plus capacitors) in the radio power leads to remedy it.

If using shielded cable, always shield at one end, and leave the other
end unattached.

Preferably use the Europa suggested COM antenna. This one has the best
noise rejection potential.

Make sure your coaxial antenna cable is properly RF-separated. You might
need to coil it up close to the antenna, or use a dozen or so torroids
over the cable (like proposed for the Europa antenna, but this applies
to all brands).

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Frans Veldman


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