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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub connector, as shown here.
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg

I’m pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts. And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?

Thanks,

Ralph Finch
Davis, CA

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

Hi Ralph,

Those are crimp pins. The tool from B&C works great.
Stock #: RCT-3

Bob W.
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:18 -0800
"Ralph Finch" <rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

Quote:
I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub
connector, as shown here.

http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg



I'm pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts.
And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?



Thanks,



Ralph Finch

Davis, CA






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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing. 20 or 22 AWG wire will be
fine. That's the size range for the pin anyway. Picture is of a male
pin, but the crimp tool works on both the male and female version.

Bob W.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:57:44 -0700
Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com> wrote:

Quote:


Hi Ralph,

Those are crimp pins. The tool from B&C works great.
Stock #: RCT-3

Bob W.


On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:18 -0800
"Ralph Finch" <rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

> I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub
> connector, as shown here.
>
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg
>
>
>
> I'm pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts.
> And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ralph Finch
>
> Davis, CA
>
>
>
>




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

Bob, thanks for the reply...sure glad I asked here first. Say, I don't have
the RCT-3, but tried the smallest hole on the coax crimper RCT-2
(http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#RCT-2). It
seems to provide a firm crimp--I tugged on it and it didn't come apart--but
again, before charging ahead, want to make sure.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

Hi Ralph,

I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit into
the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out of
it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or removing
them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).

Bob W.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:24:13 -0800
"Ralph Finch" <rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

[quote]

Bob, thanks for the reply...sure glad I asked here first. Say, I don't have
the RCT-3, but tried the smallest hole on the coax crimper RCT-2
(http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#RCT-2). It
seems to provide a firm crimp--I tugged on it and it didn't come apart--but
again, before charging ahead, want to make sure.

RF

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:17 am    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

Ralph,

I'm not sure I would trust the crimp on the d-sub pin from the coax crimper.
It may be tight, but it is certainly not the correct type of crimp for the
pin. Using the proper crimper can save problems in the future. The cost of
the proper crimper should be worth it since you will probably be using it
more as you wire your aircraft. The machined d-sub pins can also be used in
the smaller pin CPC connectors as well. The machined pins and sockets are
higher quality than the open barrel type of pins and again can prevent
phantom problems in the future.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

Bob and Steve,

Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get something right:
would the IDEAL 30-426
(http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper today
from
Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have several
days
delay shipping.

RF
Quoting Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com>:

[Hide Quoted Text]


Hi Ralph,

I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit into
the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out of
it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or removing
them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).

Bob W.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

Ralph,

No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.

You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp
for the pin in your picture.

Check six ,
Bob Borger
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On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:

Quote:

>

Bob and Steve,

Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get
something right:
would the IDEAL 30-426
(http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper
today
from
Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have
several
days
delay shipping.

RF
Quoting Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com>:

[Hide Quoted Text]


Hi Ralph,

I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit
into
the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out
of
it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or
removing
them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).

Bob W.



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:14 pm    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

You want a closed barrel tool. I bought one from Frys. I think it was made
by Eclipse. Looks like this:


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Greg Young


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

I agree with Bob. You need the 4 point crimp tool for round machined
pins. Anything that squeezes in form 2 sides may cause grief in the
long run.

Bob W.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:13 -0600
Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com> wrote:

Quote:


Ralph,

No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.

You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp
for the pin in your picture.

Check six ,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
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Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117

On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:

>
> >
>
> Bob and Steve,
>
> Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get
> something right:
> would the IDEAL 30-426
> (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
> be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper
> today
> from
> Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have
> several
> days
> delay shipping.
>
> RF
> Quoting Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com>:
>
> [Hide Quoted Text]
>
>
> Hi Ralph,
>
> I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
> and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit
> into
> the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
> two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out
> of
> it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or
> removing
> them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).
>
> Bob W.
>
>
>
>
>







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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

Quoting Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com>:

Quote:


Ralph,

No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.

You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp
for the pin in your picture.

Check six ,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S

OK, I ordered the proper tool, and some replacement pins and sockets for the
improperly crimped ones. Thanks again, saved me from frustration down the
road.

Ralph Finch
Davis, CA USA

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

If I only had a very few pins, I would probably use the open barrel pins, along with the Ideal crimp tool.

If you are going to do anymore than, say ten pins, you definitely want to go with the right tool and machined pins.
Quote:
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com (bob(at)bob-white.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com (bob(at)bob-white.com)>


I agree with Bob.  You need the 4 point crimp tool for round machined
pins.  Anything that squeezes in form 2 sides may cause grief in the
long run.

Bob W.


On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:13 -0600
Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)> wrote:

> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)>
>
> Ralph,
>
> No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.
>
> You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp
> for the pin in your picture.
>
> Check six ,
> Bob Borger
> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
> Aircraft Flying!
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX  76208
> Home:  940-497-2123
> Cel:  817-992-1117
>
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:
>
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ralph Finch" <rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us (rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us)
> > >
> >
> > Bob and Steve,
> >
> > Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get
> > something right:
> > would the IDEAL 30-426
> > (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
> > be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper
> > today
> > from
> > Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have
> > several
> > days
> > delay shipping.
> >
> > RF
> > Quoting Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com (bob(at)bob-white.com)>:
> >
> > [Hide Quoted Text]
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com (bob(at)bob-white.com)>
> >
> > Hi Ralph,
> >
> > I would recommend going with the RCT-3.  It gives you a 4 point crimp,
> > and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit
> > into
> > the connector body correctly.  I don't have any experience using the
> > two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out
> > of
> > it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or
> > removing
> > them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).
> >
> > Bob W.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin Reply with quote

At 01:13 PM 2/26/2009, you wrote:
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Bob and Steve,

Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get something right:
would the IDEAL 30-426
(http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper today
from
Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have several
days
delay shipping.

No, this tool is for sheet metal, b-crimp pins. If you can't
get a 4-quad tool, it would be better to solder them on.
Tin the strands. Cut a piece of .032" solder and stick it
down inside the wire socket.

Heat the pin and push and hold the wire bottomed out
until it cools.

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