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rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub connector, as shown here.  

http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg  

   

I’m pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts.  And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?  

   

Thanks,  

   

Ralph Finch  

Davis, CA   

   

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bob(at)bob-white.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

Hi Ralph,



Those are crimp pins.  The tool from B&C works great.

Stock #: 	RCT-3



Bob W.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:18 -0800

"Ralph Finch" <rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub

 connector, as shown here.

 

 http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg

 

  

 

 I'm pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts.

 And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?

 

  

 

 Thanks,

 

  

 

 Ralph Finch

 

 Davis, CA 

 

  

 

 


	




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bob(at)bob-white.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing.  20 or 22 AWG wire will be

fine. That's the size range for the pin anyway.  Picture is of a male

pin, but the crimp tool works on both the male and female version.



Bob W.



On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:57:44 -0700

Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Hi Ralph,

 

 Those are crimp pins.  The tool from B&C works great.

 Stock #: 	RCT-3

 

 Bob W.

 

 

 On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:18 -0800

 "Ralph Finch" <rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

 

 > I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub

 > connector, as shown here.

 > 

 > http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg

 > 

 >  

 > 

 > I'm pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts.

 > And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?

 > 

 >  

 > 

 > Thanks,

 > 

 >  

 > 

 > Ralph Finch

 > 

 > Davis, CA 

 > 

 >  

 > 

 > 

 

 


	




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rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:31 am Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

Bob, thanks for the reply...sure glad I asked here first.  Say, I don't have

the RCT-3, but tried the smallest hole on the coax crimper RCT-2

(http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#RCT-2). It

seems to provide a firm crimp--I tugged on it and it didn't come apart--but

again, before charging ahead, want to make sure.



RF



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bob(at)bob-white.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

Hi Ralph,



I would recommend going with the RCT-3.  It gives you a 4 point crimp,

and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit into

the connector body correctly.  I don't have any experience using the

two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out of

it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or removing

them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).



Bob W. 



On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:24:13 -0800

"Ralph Finch" <rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:



[quote] 

 

 Bob, thanks for the reply...sure glad I asked here first.  Say, I don't have

 the RCT-3, but tried the smallest hole on the coax crimper RCT-2

 (http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#RCT-2). It

 seems to provide a firm crimp--I tugged on it and it didn't come apart--but

 again, before charging ahead, want to make sure.

 

 RF

 

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steveg(at)redmondair.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

Ralph,



I'm not sure I would trust the crimp on the d-sub pin from the coax crimper.

It may be tight, but it is certainly not the correct type of crimp for the

pin.  Using the proper crimper can save problems in the future.  The cost of

the proper crimper should be worth it since you will probably be using it

more as you wire your aircraft.  The machined d-sub pins can also be used in

the smaller pin CPC connectors as well.  The machined pins and sockets are

higher quality than the open barrel type of pins and again can prevent

phantom problems in the future.



Steve



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rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

Bob and Steve,



Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get something right:

would the IDEAL 30-426

(http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)

be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper today

from

Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have several

days

delay shipping.



RF

Quoting Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com>:



[Hide Quoted Text]




Hi Ralph,



I would recommend going with the RCT-3.  It gives you a 4 point crimp,

and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit into

the connector body correctly.  I don't have any experience using the

two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out of

it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or removing

them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).



Bob W.

rlborger(at)mac.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

Ralph,



No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.



You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp  

for the pin in your picture.



Check six ,

Bob Borger

Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S

http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL

Aircraft Flying!

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208

Home:  940-497-2123

Cel:  817-992-1117



On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 >



 Bob and Steve,



 Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get  

 something right:

 would the IDEAL 30-426

 (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)

 be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper  

 today

 from

 Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have  

 several

 days

 delay shipping.



 RF

 Quoting Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com>:



 [Hide Quoted Text]

 



 Hi Ralph,



 I would recommend going with the RCT-3.  It gives you a 4 point crimp,

 and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit  

 into

 the connector body correctly.  I don't have any experience using the

 two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out  

 of

 it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or  

 removing

 them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).



 Bob W.

gyoung

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 211
Location: Republic of Texas

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

You want a closed barrel tool. I bought one from Frys. I think it was made

by Eclipse. Looks like this:

 



Regards,

Greg Young

 



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bob(at)bob-white.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

I agree with Bob.  You need the 4 point crimp tool for round machined

pins.  Anything that squeezes in form 2 sides may cause grief in the

long run.



Bob W.



On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:13 -0600

Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Ralph,

 

 No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.

 

 You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp  

 for the pin in your picture.

 

 Check six ,

 Bob Borger

 Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S

 http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL

 Aircraft Flying!

 3705 Lynchburg Dr.

 Corinth, TX  76208

 Home:  940-497-2123

 Cel:  817-992-1117

 

 On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:

 

 > 

 > >

 >

 > Bob and Steve,

 >

 > Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get  

 > something right:

 > would the IDEAL 30-426

 > (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)

 > be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper  

 > today

 > from

 > Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have  

 > several

 > days

 > delay shipping.

 >

 > RF

 > Quoting Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com>:

 >

 > [Hide Quoted Text]

 > 

 >

 > Hi Ralph,

 >

 > I would recommend going with the RCT-3.  It gives you a 4 point crimp,

 > and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit  

 > into

 > the connector body correctly.  I don't have any experience using the

 > two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out  

 > of

 > it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or  

 > removing

 > them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).

 >

 > Bob W.

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 

 

 

 

 


	




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3.8 Hours Total Time and holding

Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/

rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

Quoting Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com>:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Ralph,



 No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.



 You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp  

 for the pin in your picture.



 Check six ,

 Bob Borger

 Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S


	


OK, I ordered the proper tool, and some replacement pins and sockets for the

improperly crimped ones.  Thanks again, saved me from frustration down the

road.



Ralph Finch

Davis, CA USA



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Sam

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

If I only had a very few pins, I would probably use the open barrel pins, along with the Ideal crimp tool.



If you are going to do anymore than, say ten pins, you definitely want to go with the right tool and machined pins.

  	  Quote: 	
		  	
Sam



On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com (bob(at)bob-white.com)> wrote:

 [quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com (bob(at)bob-white.com)>

  

 

I agree with Bob.  You need the 4 point crimp tool for round machined

 pins.  Anything that squeezes in form 2 sides may cause grief in the

 long run.

 

 Bob W.

 



 On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:13 -0600

 Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)> wrote:

 

 > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)>

 >

 > Ralph,

 >

 > No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.

 >

 > You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp

 > for the pin in your picture.

 >

 > Check six ,

 > Bob Borger

 > Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S

 > http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL

 > Aircraft Flying!

 > 3705 Lynchburg Dr.

 > Corinth, TX  76208

 > Home:  940-497-2123

 > Cel:  817-992-1117

 >

 > On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:

 >

 > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ralph Finch" <rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us (rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us)

 > > >

 > >

 > > Bob and Steve,

 > >

 > > Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get

 > > something right:

 > > would the IDEAL 30-426

 > > (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)

 > > be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper

 > > today

 > > from

 > > Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have

 > > several

 > > days

 > > delay shipping.

 > >

 > > RF

 > > Quoting Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com (bob(at)bob-white.com)>:

 > >

 > > [Hide Quoted Text]

 > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bob White <bob(at)bob-white.com (bob(at)bob-white.com)>

 > >

 > > Hi Ralph,

 > >

 > > I would recommend going with the RCT-3.  It gives you a 4 point crimp,

 > > and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit

 > > into

 > > the connector body correctly.  I don't have any experience using the

 > > two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out

 > > of

 > > it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or

 > > removing

 > > them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).

 > >

 > > Bob W.

 > >

 > >

 > >

 > >

 > >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 

 

 



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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin

At 01:13 PM 2/26/2009, you wrote:

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Bob and Steve,



Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get something right:

would the IDEAL 30-426

(http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)

be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper today

from

Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have several

days

delay shipping.


	


  No, this tool is for sheet metal, b-crimp pins. If you can't

  get a 4-quad tool, it would be better to solder them on.

  Tin the strands. Cut a piece of .032" solder and stick it

  down inside the wire socket.



  Heat the pin and push and hold the wire bottomed out

  until it cools.



        Bob . . .



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