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mikenjulie.parkin(at)btin
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 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT |
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Travelling VFR in Europe has always been fairly easy in my limited experience. However, I do wonder if my travels have been that way because the local authorities didn’t know I was there. With the introduction of Mode ‘S’, area radars can now easily obtain your registration – that means that we are more easily identified for aircraft type. Not being particularly brave, I choose to cross the channel from Kent, usually to Le Touquet or Ostende. The LAA has a document on line – ‘TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT’ – this covers a lot of the information required. Unfortunately, the date on the document is 2005, is there a later version available.
While, I know that France, Germany and the Netherlands are fairly permit aircraft friendly, does Belgium continue to require an application with fee to transit Belgian airspace. I recall that some of the Europa Club members had a bit of a battle with Italian bureaucracy a couple of years back.
Perhaps an area of the Europa Club web-site could be dedicated to the rules, regulations and pilots experiences – I for one would find such a site very useful.
What do you guys on the Europa Club Committee think.
Regards,
Mike Parkin
G_JULZ soon to be flying again.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:29 am Post subject: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT |
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I for one would be very interested in this idea. My mono is very nearly ready to fly and I plan to travel abroad (especially Portugal) as much as possible. Last year I did two trips to France in our group Emeraude and was amazed by how easy and accessible it all was.
Even somewhere where experiences could be pooled to help others or a club rep.? The Europa flyer covers people’s trips very well and I usually read anyone’s European travels more than once (!) to gather any usefull info.
Richard Scanlan
G-CEIW
912s Mono
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Parkin
Sent: 02 March 2009 08:14
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Subject: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT
Travelling VFR in Europe has always been fairly easy in my limited experience. However, I do wonder if my travels have been that way because the local authorities didn’t know I was there. With the introduction of Mode ‘S’, area radars can now easily obtain your registration – that means that we are more easily identified for aircraft type. Not being particularly brave, I choose to cross the channel from Kent, usually to Le Touquet or Ostende. The LAA has a document on line – ‘TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT’ – this covers a lot of the information required. Unfortunately, the date on the document is 2005, is there a later version available.
While, I know that France, Germany and the Netherlands are fairly permit aircraft friendly, does Belgium continue to require an application with fee to transit Belgian airspace. I recall that some of the Europa Club members had a bit of a battle with Italian bureaucracy a couple of years back.
Perhaps an area of the Europa Club web-site could be dedicated to the rules, regulations and pilots experiences – I for one would find such a site very useful.
What do you guys on the Europa Club Committee think.
Regards,
Mike Parkin
G_JULZ soon to be flying again. | Quote: | | http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List |
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Brian Davies
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT |
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Hi Mike,
The club does have such a document that I put on a new member's CD. Unfortunately, it is also dated 2005! I will talk to the committee to see if someone can update it.
Any volunteers?
Alternatively, you could read the very comprehensive document, produced by the microlite guys, at http://www.wfaec.org.uk/files/flying_in_europe_by_microlight.pdf dated 2007.
Regards
Brian Davies, The Europa Club membership sec.
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Parkin
Sent: 02 March 2009 08:14
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Subject: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT
Travelling VFR in Europe has always been fairly easy in my limited experience. However, I do wonder if my travels have been that way because the local authorities didn’t know I was there. With the introduction of Mode ‘S’, area radars can now easily obtain your registration – that means that we are more easily identified for aircraft type. Not being particularly brave, I choose to cross the channel from Kent, usually to Le Touquet or Ostende. The LAA has a document on line – ‘TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT’ – this covers a lot of the information required. Unfortunately, the date on the document is 2005, is there a later version available.
While, I know that France, Germany and the Netherlands are fairly permit aircraft friendly, does Belgium continue to require an application with fee to transit Belgian airspace. I recall that some of the Europa Club members had a bit of a battle with Italian bureaucracy a couple of years back.
Perhaps an area of the Europa Club web-site could be dedicated to the rules, regulations and pilots experiences – I for one would find such a site very useful.
What do you guys on the Europa Club Committee think.
Regards,
Mike Parkin
G_JULZ soon to be flying again.
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mikenjulie.parkin(at)btin
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT |
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Thanks Brian,
The microlight document did make interesting reading. I could be persuaded to co-ordinate an Overseas Flying area if enough people think it would be useful.
Regards,
Mike
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From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Davies
Sent: 02 March 2009 11:37
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Subject: RE: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT
Hi Mike,
The club does have such a document that I put on a new member's CD. Unfortunately, it is also dated 2005! I will talk to the committee to see if someone can update it.
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sidsel.svein(at)oslo.onli
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:54 am Post subject: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT |
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Mike,
Excellent idea – please do!
Regards,
Svein
LN-SKJ
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Sendt: 3. mars 2009 08:11
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Emne: RE: TRAVELLING ABROAD IN A PERMIT AIRCRAFT
Thanks Brian,
The microlight document did make interesting reading. I could be persuaded to co-ordinate an Overseas Flying area if enough people think it would be useful.
Regards,
Mike
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