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Juan Vega Jr
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 Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: Report no. 2 from Sun n Fun - The Heintz clan reactions to |
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Jay,
it was addresed to Paul, the Hap Ki Do guy.
Juan
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ihab.awad(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: Report no. 2 from Sun n Fun - The Heintz clan reactions to |
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Hi Paul,
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Ronald Steele <rsteele(at)rjsit.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I think one of the issues here is that the NTSB report appears to be
internally inconsistent.
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In the spirit of soliciting information rather than challenging your
assertion: I'm sure you've come to this conclusion carefully. Since
you seem to have read it closely and since it's important to have
several eyes on something to pick it apart, could you list exactly
which items you find inconsistent, with page numbers and stuff?
Ihab
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ihab.awad(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: Report no. 2 from Sun n Fun - The Heintz clan reactions to |
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Oops, sorry, I should have said --
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:28 PM, <ihab.awad(at)gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Paul,
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Ronald Steele <rsteele(at)rjsit.com> wrote:
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"Hi Ron" instead of "Hi Paul". 
Ihab
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rsteele(at)rjsit.com
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: Report no. 2 from Sun n Fun - The Heintz clan reactions to |
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A. List a bunch of crashes with no known causes.
B. Tell us how terrible flutter is
C. Tell us that it's important to keep the cables tensioned to avoid
flutter
D. Tell us that's not good enough solution to avoid flutter.
E. Ground fleet.
Notice there is no connection between A and anything else.
This is post/ad-hoc reasoning.
Plus, the NTSB must be aware of further engineering testing taking
place on the design. Putting out a report like this when other real
data will be available shortly raises my eyebrows. And, this further
testing may actually tie all these pieces together.
I want this problem fixed as bad as anyone else.
I also think this report is a sloppy, poorly reasoned waste of tax
dollars.
Is flutter the problem? As the report states there is circumstantial
evidence. I don't pretend to know, and based on this report any
engineer worth his education wouldn't accept it as a statement of fact
either.
You may posit that circumstantial evidence is enough to ground the
fleet. Obviously others disagree. I'm not flying yet (or any time
soon) so my horse really isn't in that race. But I will say this.
Making any engineering changes based on such a report is foolhardy.
You could as easily give people false confidence in an otherwise
flawed design as actually fix the problem.
I'm not making any judgement about anybody's decision to fly or not.
That's personal. I do think the Heintz's response is reasonable and
criticizing the way they are handling this off the mark.
That's my $.02 worth - and it's all your getting
Ron
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On Apr 22, 2009, at 9:28 PM, ihab.awad(at)gmail.com wrote:
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Hi Paul,
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Ronald Steele <rsteele(at)rjsit.com>
wrote:
> I think one of the issues here is that the NTSB report appears to be
> internally inconsistent.
In the spirit of soliciting information rather than challenging your
assertion: I'm sure you've come to this conclusion carefully. Since
you seem to have read it closely and since it's important to have
several eyes on something to pick it apart, could you list exactly
which items you find inconsistent, with page numbers and stuff?
Ihab
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