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orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:31 am Post subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

In section 48 Gear Leg & Wheel fairings, on page 48-12  Figure 1, to attach the leg gear upper intersection fairing, the plans call for "screw #6 x 1/2 SS SMS   3 Places".  I assume these are Stainless Steal Sheet Metal Screws.  I can't find them listed in the hardware listing and going through all my packages, I can't find anything resembling sheet metal screws.



For those who have already passed this point, did Vans provide these screws?  I know I can get them locally but no need to get dups if they were provided and I have over looked them.



I know some have gone to nutplates in all 4 locations but I am not sure if I can get to the inside for the 3 fuselage locations to try to add nut plates.

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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

Gary,



I installed some mounting points called Nut-Serts for those screws.  They install from the outside.  Then you can use a machine screw.  Just be careful however you mount them.  Fuel and brake lines are just above.

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:31 AM, orchidman <gary(at)wingscc.com (gary(at)wingscc.com)> wrote:

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		   --> RV10-List message posted by: "orchidman" <gary(at)wingscc.com (gary(at)wingscc.com)>

 

 In section 48 Gear Leg & Wheel fairings, on page 48-12  Figure 1, to attach the leg gear upper intersection fairing, the plans call for "screw #6 x 1/2 SS SMS   3 Places".  I assume these are Stainless Steal Sheet Metal Screws.  I can't find them listed in the hardware listing and going through all my packages, I can't find anything resembling sheet metal screws.

  

 For those who have already passed this point, did Vans provide these screws?  I know I can get them locally but no need to get dups if they were provided and I have over looked them.

 

 I know some have gone to nutplates in all 4 locations but I am not sure if I can get to the inside for the 3 fuselage locations to try to add nut plates.

 

 	




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Dave Saylor

AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell

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pascal(at)rv10builder.net
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

they're in bag# 1526 1  looks like small simple screws.



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From: "orchidman" <gary(at)wingscc.com>

Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:31 AM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing



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 In section 48 Gear Leg & Wheel fairings, on page 48-12  Figure 1, to 

 attach the leg gear upper intersection fairing, the plans call for "screw 

 #6 x 1/2 SS SMS   3 Places".  I assume these are Stainless Steal Sheet 

 Metal Screws.  I can't find them listed in the hardware listing and going 

 through all my packages, I can't find anything resembling sheet metal 

 screws.



 For those who have already passed this point, did Vans provide these 

 screws?  I know I can get them locally but no need to get dups if they 

 were provided and I have over looked them.



 I know some have gone to nutplates in all 4 locations but I am not sure if 

 I can get to the inside for the 3 fuselage locations to try to add nut 

 plates.



 --------

 Gary Blankenbiller

 RV10 - # 40674

 (N2GB Flying)





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 46617#246617

n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

I used rivnuts and machine screws....  No sheet metal screws in my  

planes!!!



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On Jun 3, 2009, at 12:31 PM, "orchidman" <gary(at)wingscc.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 In section 48 Gear Leg & Wheel fairings, on page 48-12  Figure 1, to  

 attach the leg gear upper intersection fairing, the plans call for  

 "screw #6 x 1/2 SS SMS   3 Places".  I assume these are Stainless  

 Steal Sheet Metal Screws.  I can't find them listed in the hardware  

 listing and going through all my packages, I can't find anything  

 resembling sheet metal screws.



 For those who have already passed this point, did Vans provide these  

 screws?  I know I can get them locally but no need to get dups if  

 they were provided and I have over looked them.



 I know some have gone to nutplates in all 4 locations but I am not  

 sure if I can get to the inside for the 3 fuselage locations to try  

 to add nut plates.



 --------

 Gary Blankenbiller

 RV10 - # 40674

 (N2GB Flying)





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 46617#246617

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

I installed Click-Bond nut plates. They can be installed pretty  

easily from the inside. Riv-Nuts or Nut-Serts would be another option.



David Maib

40559

Flying





On Jun 3, 2009, at 12:31 PM, orchidman wrote:






In section 48 Gear Leg & Wheel fairings, on page 48-12  Figure 1, to  

attach the leg gear upper intersection fairing, the plans call for  

"screw #6 x 1/2 SS SMS   3 Places".  I assume these are Stainless  

Steal Sheet Metal Screws.  I can't find them listed in the hardware  

listing and going through all my packages, I can't find anything  

resembling sheet metal screws.



For those who have already passed this point, did Vans provide these  

screws?  I know I can get them locally but no need to get dups if  

they were provided and I have over looked them.



I know some have gone to nutplates in all 4 locations but I am not  

sure if I can get to the inside for the 3 fuselage locations to try  

to add nut plates.



--------

Gary Blankenbiller

RV10 - # 40674

(N2GB Flying)





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 46617#246617

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RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

And the spar, too.  I had one I couldn't put where I wanted because of

the spar.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

do not archive

David Saylor wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Gary,

 

 I installed some mounting points called Nut-Serts for those screws.  

 They install from the outside.  Then you can use a machine screw.  Just 

 be careful however you mount them.  Fuel and brake lines are just above.

 

 On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:31 AM, orchidman <gary(at)wingscc.com 

 <mailto:gary(at)wingscc.com>> wrote:

 

     

     <mailto:gary(at)wingscc.com>>

 

     In section 48 Gear Leg & Wheel fairings, on page 48-12  Figure 1, to

     attach the leg gear upper intersection fairing, the plans call for

     "screw #6 x 1/2 SS SMS   3 Places".  I assume these are Stainless

     Steal Sheet Metal Screws.  I can't find them listed in the hardware

     listing and going through all my packages, I can't find anything

     resembling sheet metal screws.

 

     For those who have already passed this point, did Vans provide these

     screws?  I know I can get them locally but no need to get dups if

     they were provided and I have over looked them.

 

     I know some have gone to nutplates in all 4 locations but I am not

     sure if I can get to the inside for the 3 fuselage locations to try

     to add nut plates.

 

 

 

 -- 

 Dave Saylor

 AirCrafters LLC

 140 Aviation Way

 Watsonville, CA 95076

 831-722-9141 Shop

 831-750-0284 Cell

 

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Jim Berry

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 237
Location: Denver

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

If you want to use nut plates, one way to do it is the following:



1. Get 2 pieces of small diameter wire about 18" long. I used welding wire, but hinge pin material works also.



2. After drilling the rivet holes for the nut plate, insert one of the wires in each rivet hole. This can be done from either inside or outside the fuselage. Slide the nut plate down over both wires till it bottoms out on the fuselage skin.



3. Install a machine screw in the nut plate to hold it firmly to the skin. Remove one wire and install a blind rivet; remove the other wire and install second blind rivet.



As others have mentioned, Rivnuts or Nutserts work well also.



Jim Berry

40482

N15JB

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:19 am Post subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

And if you really want to prevent some aggravation, clean the nut-sert 

and the aluminum around the hole and use some red Loctite or JB-weld on 

the nut-sert before you squeeze it.  Use anti-sieve on the screw.  This 

way you won't have the problem of turning the nut-sert when you remove 

the screw.

Linn



David Saylor wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Gary,

 

 I installed some mounting points called Nut-Serts for those screws.  

 They install from the outside.  Then you can use a machine screw.  Just 

 be careful however you mount them.  Fuel and brake lines are just above.

 

 On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:31 AM, orchidman <gary(at)wingscc.com 

 <mailto:gary(at)wingscc.com>> wrote:

 

     

     <mailto:gary(at)wingscc.com>>

 

     In section 48 Gear Leg & Wheel fairings, on page 48-12  Figure 1, to

     attach the leg gear upper intersection fairing, the plans call for

     "screw #6 x 1/2 SS SMS   3 Places".  I assume these are Stainless

     Steal Sheet Metal Screws.  I can't find them listed in the hardware

     listing and going through all my packages, I can't find anything

     resembling sheet metal screws.

 

     For those who have already passed this point, did Vans provide these

     screws?  I know I can get them locally but no need to get dups if

     they were provided and I have over looked them.

 

     I know some have gone to nutplates in all 4 locations but I am not

     sure if I can get to the inside for the 3 fuselage locations to try

     to add nut plates.

 

 

 

 -- 

 Dave Saylor

 AirCrafters LLC

 140 Aviation Way

 Watsonville, CA 95076

 831-722-9141 Shop

 831-750-0284 Cell

 

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:27 am Post subject: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

I hate it when I do that!!!  Meant riv-nut, not nut-sert.  Sheesh!

Linn



linn wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 And if you really want to prevent some aggravation, clean the nut-sert 

 and the aluminum around the hole and use some red Loctite or JB-weld on 

 the nut-sert before you squeeze it.  Use anti-sieve on the screw.  This 

 way you won't have the problem of turning the nut-sert when you remove 

 the screw.

 Linn

 

 David Saylor wrote:

> Gary,

>

> I installed some mounting points called Nut-Serts for those screws.  

> They install from the outside.  Then you can use a machine screw.  

> Just be careful however you mount them.  Fuel and brake lines are just 

> above.

>

> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:31 AM, orchidman <gary(at)wingscc.com 

> <mailto:gary(at)wingscc.com>> wrote:

>

>     

>     <mailto:gary(at)wingscc.com>>

>

>     In section 48 Gear Leg & Wheel fairings, on page 48-12  Figure 1, to

>     attach the leg gear upper intersection fairing, the plans call for

>     "screw #6 x 1/2 SS SMS   3 Places".  I assume these are Stainless

>     Steal Sheet Metal Screws.  I can't find them listed in the hardware

>     listing and going through all my packages, I can't find anything

>     resembling sheet metal screws.

>

>     For those who have already passed this point, did Vans provide these

>     screws?  I know I can get them locally but no need to get dups if

>     they were provided and I have over looked them.

>

>     I know some have gone to nutplates in all 4 locations but I am not

>     sure if I can get to the inside for the 3 fuselage locations to try

>     to add nut plates.

>

> -- 

> Dave Saylor

> AirCrafters LLC

> 140 Aviation Way

> Watsonville, CA 95076

> 831-722-9141 Shop

> 831-750-0284 Cell

>

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orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Attaching upper leg intersection fairing

Thanks all for the quick replies.  I just ordered some nutserts from AC after I called Dave and discussed a plan of attack.

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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

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