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				 Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: oil Usage | 
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				Lynn,
    Built a separator, 5 vane 6" tall and  insulated it.Last 2 hrs have collected 1"of moisture in the catch bottle but no oil.Now I can keep tabs on oil consumption.Finished a 4 vane 4" tall separator that I will install this weekend.They look weird but it's effective.I'll just keep making it smaller until it can't trap the oil.Here's a picture.
      G.Aman
  
    
  
    
  
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: oil Usage | 
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				Thanks for the update, Gary. I removed my "puke jar" as I like to  
 call it, last week during my most recent 25-hour oil change. It had  
 collected 5 oz of oil and a *very* little bit of water...maybe 1/2 oz  
 out of that 5 oz. Then, because my puke jar/collection bottle is  
 translucent, I calibrated it at 2 oz intervals, and made marks on the  
 side. Now when I have the cowl off, I can make a note that at such- 
 and-such hours, I had collected "XX" oz of oil. This will help me  
 monitor engine wear, oil performance, etc.
 
 During that 25 hours of operation, I only added 6 oz of new oil to  
 top off the oil sump.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 712 hrs
 Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 Status: flying
 
 
 On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:05 PM, zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Lynn,
    Built a separator, 5 vane 6" tall and  insulated it.Last 2 hrs  
  have collected 1"of moisture in the catch bottle but no oil.Now I  
  can keep tabs on oil consumption.Finished a 4 vane 4" tall  
  separator that I will install this weekend.They look weird but it's  
  effective.I'll just keep making it smaller until it can't trap the  
  oil.Here's a picture.
      G.Aman
 
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		dave.go
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: oil Usage | 
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				I have used oil collection bottles in race bikes,  they turn up to 15 thousand RPM and oil collection is still as simple as a small  plastic bottle. Oil will drop out of the vapour as long as you can slow the air  down, I'm confused about the requirement for vanes and traps, are you flying  inverted? 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: oil Usage | 
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				Dave,
   Not intentionally.On my early 2200a Jabiru requests that I run the oil level at the add mark,to reduce pushing it out the vent.The add mark is 3/16" from the end of the stick.Once it's below the stick it's hard to guess how much to add to get it back to that level,so it's been see sawing between to much and not enough with the excess ending up in the catch can.I'm just trying to eliminate the loss out of the vent so I can get a realistic handle on basic consumption.The separator just forces the vapor to make 4 or 5  90 degree turns and the oil drops out of the airstream onto the vanes and runs back into the sump.Unconfused?
  
                                         Thanks,G.Aman Kolb MK-3C 450hrs mostly rightside up.
  
    
  
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		dave.go
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject: oil Usage | 
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				I guess so, I won't try to hasten your reduction in  complexity. Is there a longer dipstick available? 
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: oil Usage | 
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				I read a good suggestion on one of the Jabiru groups that I  
 read....on top of the dipstick knob, you can see where the stick is  
 flush with the top of the knob. Simply drive the stick down through  
 the knob about 1/4"--3/8" , and you will have a longer dipstick...it  
 worked for me. On my stick at leaast, the knob is just "cast" around  
 the smooth stick. If they made one that was
 knurled inside the knob, the knob might split when you drive it down,  
 but I doubt that Jabiru would go to the trouble/expense of another  
 machining operation on such a simple device as the dipstick.
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 720 hrs
 Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 Status: flying
 
 
 On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Dave wrote:
 
 [quote] I guess so, I won't try to hasten your reduction in complexity. Is  
  there a longer dipstick available?
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