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roberthatton1(at)googlema
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 Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: Landing Gear Frame |
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I am checking over the landing gear after a heavy landing and one of the supports in the Landing Gear Frame appears to have a slight and small crack. Although it still attached to the frame. It does not seem to have been welded (but I could be wrong), it seems to have been glued in, and I wonder if anyone has any advice for how I might remove the support in order to clean up and subsequently re-attach it? I am taking the opportunity to clean up the rest of the Landing gear frame too, which does not display any other issues.
I have attached the diagram and a photo to show what I am looking at, although it is difficult to see the crack. Any advice would be gratefully received.
All the Best
Rob
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pete(at)lawless.info
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:05 am Post subject: Landing Gear Frame |
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Hi Robert
The 2 extra bits of frame, one either side, were an early mod and should have been welded in place. I did hear that some builders who had already installed the frame in the fuselage used Redux to fit the extra supports.
If yours have been Reduxed then heating with a hot air gun or small gas torch will soften the glue and allow removal.
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Pete
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budyerly(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:24 am Post subject: Landing Gear Frame |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Bob,
I'd replace it...Have one in stock.
Bud
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lamprey(at)infocom.co.ug
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: Landing Gear Frame |
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Robert,
Around 1996, Europa supplied the support brackets, and stainless straps to be welded in conjunction, for those who could not send the undercarriage frame back to have it done. Those who had already installed the frame had rather a nightmare getting it out again, alot of hammering needed. In my case, I hadn't installed the frame, but sending it back to Yorkshire from Kenya would have been impossible, so I obtained from Europa the kit of supports/straps parts. These have to be welded by Tungsten Inert Gas (TIG) welding, which is for stainless steel and quite specialized.... I had mine welded by the only company in Kenya doing TIG welding, in the backstreets of Nairobi's industrial area; the company makes fitted-out kitchen surfaces for hotels and game lodges.
It might be worth asking Europa if they still have that kit of support brackets and straps, and then finding a TIG welder. In any case it would seem that you will have to get the frame out... Good luck.
All the best
Richard
Europa 168, reg 5Y-LRY, Kenya
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christoph.both(at)acadiau
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| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: Landing Gear Frame |
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My classic had the extra supports welded in after receiving the original kit without such supports. The welding was done in the States and well done (Bob Berube?).
However, I later opted for the TRI conversion and as there is no comparable landing gear stress on the supported tube as can be expected for the MONO, I called EUROPA. They concluded that it would be ok to cut it out, which I did. Saved perhaps 200 grams, but also made the opening a bit less claustrophobic for the bungees.
So, for CLASSIC TRI this might work for you. For the MONO you must have it.
Christoph Both
#223 Classic
Wolfville, NS
Canada
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Subject: Landing Gear Frame
Robert,
Around 1996, Europa supplied the support brackets, and stainless straps to be welded in conjunction, for those who could not send the undercarriage frame back to have it done. Those who had already installed the frame had rather a nightmare getting it out again, alot of hammering needed. In my case, I hadn't installed the frame, but sending it back to Yorkshire from Kenya would have been impossible, so I obtained from Europa the kit of supports/straps parts. These have to be welded by Tungsten Inert Gas (TIG) welding, which is for stainless steel and quite specialized.... I had mine welded by the only company in Kenya doing TIG welding, in the backstreets of Nairobi's industrial area; the company makes fitted-out kitchen surfaces for hotels and game lodges.
It might be worth asking Europa if they still have that kit of support brackets and straps, and then finding a TIG welder. In any case it would seem that you will have to get the frame out... Good luck.
All the best
Richard
Europa 168, reg 5Y-LRY, Kenya
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