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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:13 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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Richard, Apart from covers it's worth considering getting rid of the ring in
the pip pins so that all of the holes can be much smaller. A small piece of
steel in the hole the ring goes through allows you to fish the pip pin out
and replace it with a tool that has a spiral groove that screws on to the
pip pin and pulls up the central portion of it, thus disengaging the pips.
The tool is only about a centimetre in diameter, (lives on the ignition key
ring), and the access holes in the tail planes and wing roots only need to
be slightly wider. This makes the system pretty much tamper proof, so that
no passing youth can readily go off with a pip pin to see how well the plane
flies without it, and also covering the hole with a small circle of sticky
white plastic is neat and easy. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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I like that idea David, would you mind emailing me a pic or details
of the tool sometime please (no rush).
Much appreciated,
Roger
On 31 Mar 2006, at 11:07, David Joyce wrote:
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Richard, Apart from covers it's worth considering getting rid of
the ring in
the pip pins so that all of the holes can be much smaller. A small
piece of
steel in the hole the ring goes through allows you to fish the pip
pin out
and replace it with a tool that has a spiral groove that screws on
to the
pip pin and pulls up the central portion of it, thus disengaging
the pips.
The tool is only about a centimetre in diameter, (lives on the
ignition key
ring), and the access holes in the tail planes and wing roots only
need to
be slightly wider. This makes the system pretty much tamper proof,
so that
no passing youth can readily go off with a pip pin to see how well
the plane
flies without it, and also covering the hole with a small circle of
sticky
white plastic is neat and easy. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
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pete(at)lawless.info Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:27 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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Even simpler, get rid of the ring and just make a hook from some stiff wire.
It's very easy to just hook the pins out. The same hook works on the wing
pins. This leaves you with a hole just big enough to get the pip pin down.
Pete
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nwcmc(at)tiscali.co.uk Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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It helps to mark the orientation of the hole on the head of the pip pin because
it is not easy to see when the pin is installed. I found that the small long
nosed pliers I carry in my travelling tool kit extract and insert the pins
with ease should a hook tool not be readily available.
Nigel Charles
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From: "Pete Lawless" <pete(at)lawless.info>
To: <europa-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:23:23 +0100
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Even simpler, get rid of the ring and just make a hook from some stiff wire.
It's very easy to just hook the pins out. The same hook works on the wing
pins. This leaves you with a hole just big enough to get the pip pin down.
Pete
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scrimm
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 81 Location: Gilbert, SC SC99
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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Go to my gallery on the Europa Owners site and you will see a couple of pics
of "Split-Ring" pliers. They are just the thing with a flat arm on one side
and the other is bent at 90 degrees it does the perfect job.
Here is the link
http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album48&op=modload&nam
e=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
Steve
N42AH
A058
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paul.mcallister
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 177 Location: Waukesha, WI USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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Hi All,
Some time ago "somewhere" I saw some photographs where a pair of long nosed
pliers were modified so the ends of the were bent / ground so that the would
go into the holes in side of he pip pin where the ring normally goes. It
seemed to be a neat idea, does this ring a bell with anyone ?
Paul
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astills(at)cox.net Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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Paul,
I also saw that photo and made a pair of the long nose pliers for the pip
pins. Just get a pair of needle
nose pliers and cut off one end, then bend the other "long" end over so it
touches. Works great on
the pip pins. Take out the ring and you have a great remove and installer.
Al Stills
N625AZ
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scrimm
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 81 Location: Gilbert, SC SC99
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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Paul,
Those were my pliers that I did. What happens was that the metal was
hardened and the bend didn't last. Then I found the split ring pliers at
Bass Pro Shot and they are perfect.
Steve
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Bill & Sue
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 48 Location: Malvern, Worcs. UK (Defford, Croft Farm)
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: Re: Tail plane Pip Pin Cover |
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If you push a suitable rod (small screwdriver) up through the drain hole it will retract the locking balls and push the pip-pin up without needing any special tools.
This way you can make the pip pin holes just big enough for the pin itself.
We only worked this out after spending hours making a screw cap for the pip-pins before deciding that a couple of cm of tape was neater, lighter and simpler.
Bill and Sue
465 Trigear. Still finding an infinite number of minor jobs to do on the airframe.
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