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		carlossa52(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: MSC industrial supply co. | 
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				Something that perhaps will amuse you...
 
 The other day I tried to order a couple of items from MacMaster-Carr, when I had the disappointing surprise: they don't do exports anymore - "Thank you for your order.  Unfortunately, due to the ever increasing complexity of United States export regulations, McMaster-Carr will only process orders from a few long-established customers in Canada.  We sincerely regret any inconvenience this causes you. ".
  
 So, I did some Googling, found MSC, and proceeded to order two UHMW bars (for the CH601-HD gear slides) and 2 x 5/32X12" drill bits.
 The costs were: 2 times 6.86 for the UHMW and and 2 times 18.88 for the drill bits.
  
 Later, I received a confirmation that included the following info:
 
 Drill bits:
 Merchandise Subtotal: $37.76
 Shipping, Handling & Surcharge: $11.83
 Sales Tax: $.00
 P/S Total: $49.59
 
 UHMW bars:
  Merchandise Subtotal: $13.72
 Shipping, Handling & Surcharge: $16.65
 Sales Tax: $.00
 P/S Total: $30.37 
 
 Note the two shipping charges ! ! ! I later found out that the shipping would be from two distinct stores/warehouses  !!!
  
 One of the parcels arrived today - the drill bits.
 Via the dreaded UPS! (the MSC web site does not offer a choice of shipping methods, or I would have chosen donkey, or something similar).
 
 And, not surprisingly, UPS charged me the outrageous brokerage fee: CD$38 ! ! !
  
 ARGH ! ! !$87 bucks for a couple of drill bits !!!!
 
 I can't wait until the UHMW bars arrive (tomorrow)... Sigh...
 
 Carlos
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		Larry Webber
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: MSC industrial supply co. | 
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				Carlos where did they ship to ? where is your location?
 
  Larry Webber
 
   
 
   Date: Mon C 21 Sep 2009 20:22:59 -0400
 Subject: MSC industrial supply co.
 From: carlossa52(at)gmail.com
 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
 
 Something that perhaps will amuse you...
 
 The other day I tried to order a couple of items from MacMaster-Carr C when I had the disappointing surprise: they don't do exports anymore - "Thank you for your order.  Unfortunately C due to the ever increasing complexity of United States export regulations C McMaster-Carr will only process orders from a few long-established customers in Canada.  We sincerely regret any inconvenience this causes you. ".
 
 So C I did some Googling C found MSC C and proceeded to order two UHMW bars (for the CH601-HD gear slides) and 2 x 5/32X12" drill bits.
 The costs were: 2 times 6.86 for the UHMW and and 2 times 18.88 for the drill bits.
 
 Later C I received a confirmation that included the following info:
 
 Drill bits:
 Merchandise Subtotal: $37.76
 Shipping C Handling & Surcharge: $11.83
 Sales Tax: $.00
 P/S Total: $49.59
 
 UHMW bars:
 Merchandise Subtotal: $13.72
 Shipping C Handling & Surcharge: $16.65
 Sales Tax: $.00
 P/S Total: $30.37 
 
 Note the two shipping charges ! ! ! I later found out that the shipping would be from two distinct stores/warehouses  !!!
 
 One of the parcels arrived today - the drill bits.
 Via the dreaded UPS! (the MSC web site does not offer a choice of shipping methods C or I would have chosen donkey C or something similar).
 
 And C not surprisingly C UPS charged me the outrageous brokerage fee: CD$38 ! ! !
 
 ARGH ! ! !$87 bucks for a couple of drill bits !!!!
 
 I can't wait until the UHMW bars arrive (tomorrow)... Sigh...
 
 Carlos
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: MSC industrial supply co. | 
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				Larry, I am in Montreal, QC, Canada
 
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 2009/9/21 Lawrence Webber <lawrencewebber(at)hotmail.com (lawrencewebber(at)hotmail.com)>
  [quote]     Carlos where did they ship to ? where is your location?
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: MSC industrial supply co. | 
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				do not archive
   
  Hello Carlos:
   
  I have been buying from MSC supply for over twenty  years.  Upon reading your post, I went to their site and formulated the  following bogus order below.  Note there is a link for:
   
  "Change ship via?  click here."
   
  There are some rules though that you have to adhere  to avoid problems.
   
  Of course, I am shipping within the  US.
   
  Until recently, I have faxed every order to  them.  I have established a internet ordering account and have sent one  order so far via that.
   
  On the faxed orders, I always add the  following:
   
  1.  Ship or cancel, no backorders
  2.  Ship from multiple warehouses only at your  expense
  3.  Ship via: cheapest way, not quickest  way
   
  RE 1:  If you let them backorder, they might  backorder a .80 cent drill bit that weighs .001 ounce, and when they fill the  BO, you incur a minimum (six bucks) shipping charge.
   
  RE 2:  Again if they ship your order and a .80  cent bit comes from elsewhere, the shipping charges are horrendous, here, if  they choose to do it, they pay, and they often do.
   
  RE 3:  They usually advertise that they will  "ship via air, second day blue label at ground rates"  Sounds good up  front, but you have to remember that UPS has a "premium" ground service"; Three  day Select.  This is much more expensive than regular ground.  Sure  they charge you "ground" rates, but it might be the "premium" ground rate.   I always specify "cheapest method".
   
  Other than these things to make sure shipping works  out, they are a very good Company.  They have probably the best Customer  service around.  The obviously have arrangements with their  venders.
   
  Many times, I have called with a technical problem  or question.  If MSC's customer service rep can't answer the question,  WHILE you are on the phone, they call the supplier Company on another line,  get that Company's customer service people involved, and you talk on a  sort of conference call until your question is answered.
   
  They usually have the stuff, often in 6 different  grades or qualities for an item.  When I order industrial items for my  small plant, it is usually from MSC or Travers.
   
  Best Regards,
   
  Randy, Las Vegas
   
   
   
   
   
   
                                                                                                                                   Quantity to be Shipped                 Backordered
 Quantity                 Your Price                 Ext. Price                                                                                                                     
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                  2                 0-->                 $30.14 ea                 $60.28                                                                                                                    Description:                       Tg Single Angle - Collets Collet Series:                          100TG Collet Capacity: 41/64 Overall Length: 2.375 In..                                                                    Shipping Detail:                       Standard Ground 2 DAYS from NV
 [url=https://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/IMSRC2?PAMODE=*RFSH&SINIS=Y#row40005977]Change ship                          via?    click                    here[/url]                                                                    By clicking "Order Now" you acknowledge all of the items on the order        and agree to MSC's terms and conditions of sale as they appear on this        website. In order to meet MSC's Same Day Shipping guarantee, all        changes/revisions must be requested immediately as, in most cases, the        order will be processed immediately after submission. Once this has        occurred, changes cannot be made. 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: MSC industrial supply co. | 
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				Carlos;
              Certainly  an educational tale! I can not help you with the UHMW. The next time though that  you need a couple of drills let me know and I will get them locally and send  them to you. Drills here are under $2.00 each. do not archive.
   
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: MSC industrial supply co. | 
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				Carlos-
      You're not the only one who got  bit by MSC. My condolences.
      It has nothing to do with  trans-border shipping, MSC charges a flat $10 US "Handling fee" per order (Or at  least they used to).  MSC primarily deals with tool shops and the like that  maintain open accounts and seem to make a point of raping the little guy. I  bought 2 ball mills from them that cataloged at about $7 US  and was charged $16 for shipping. They would have fit in an  envelope!!
      One lister said he could drop  ship you bits for about $2 each. He didn't notice the 12" length, but you  probably could have found them locally for a lot less money. I bought my 16"x  5/16" bit at TrueValue Hardware for $15.95 US. 
      Hang in there, bud.
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		Larry Webber
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: MSC industrial supply co. | 
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				In the future if you want i will get the small items for you and then send them to you   try this once and see if you can save a few bucks    willing ti give it a try for you
 
  Larry
 
   
 
   Date: Mon C 21 Sep 2009 22:01:14 -0400
 Subject: Re: MSC industrial supply co.
 From: carlossa52(at)gmail.com
 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
 
 Larry C I am in Montreal C QC C Canada
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:44 am    Post subject: MSC industrial supply co. | 
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  For all of you that have been "skinned" on  shipping by MSC, here's a chance to get even, if you need 75 bucks  worth, today only.
   
  Regards,
   
  Randy, Las Vegas
   
                                                                                    
              
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