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nimbusaviation(at)YAHOO.C
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: VAT status for European touring

Hi folks. My posting is triggered by the useful article from David Joyce in the 'Flyer' Sept 09 concerning ops in Europe - but I throw this open to others this side of The Pond - this concerns the smaller patch of water on our Eastern shores.

 

One subject maybe overlooked (did I read David correctly?) is documentation needed for a Permit aircraft crossing the channel specifically to prove the VAT (purchase tax) status of an aircraft. I know the Yachties are already finding some enthusiastic customs checks in France and elsewhere and I have heard of 'ramp' checks for aircraft, with risks of being impounded if VAT cannot be proved paid. Any opinions? Do we need to have documents - Bill of original Sale - to prove VAT paid on a KIT aircraft, along with all the other stuff, Permit, Permissions, Insurance, Radio Licences, Gen Dec .... ....



Glenn Rainey

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Cumbernauld

Scotland

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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:29 am Post subject: VAT status for European touring

Hi! Glen

In the absence of anyone more qualified giving you an answer I would advise

:-  some time ago ...like 7 or 8 years ago ...I recall that an oversized

French Bureaucrat started to play Hitler on this issue. However I don't

think anything came of it. I have flown to all places Europe over the

interceding period and never been asked to provide any proof. If that does

occur I will have a well prepared instruction to give such a person!

I think the best approach is not to give the impression they are entitled to

even ask because if you do it is tantamount to authorizing them.

I haven't seen David's item but I'm guessing it emanates from our

experiences on the Europa Club trip to the Ballerics when we were delayed

wanting fuel over an issue since we couldn't provide a VAT number in

particular in Jerez where a "thick gorilla type fuel operative" wanted a

number to put into a "box" on his fuel issue papers. In future I will carry

such a number!

Fortunately we were all in a position to leave without any, making

appropriate comments that they should put the fuel where the "sun don't

shine!"

Don't worry about it just go and when they nail a notice to your aircraft we

will respond by invading them en mass!

I had a ramp paper work audit done once ....I believe in Munster, we were

returning from noise tests being done by MT Propellers and the bloody

Gestapo had the audacity to tell me that the German documents I was carrying

were worthless since they referred to a British registered aircraft!

On contacting the CAA on my return THEY refused to convert the documents

since they don't have a noise certificate form for Permit to Fly aircraft!!!

"Enough said"!

Regards

Bob Harrison G-PTAG

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:23 am Post subject: Re: VAT status for European touring

How old do you have to be to obtain a VAT number? Hi im 18 and wish to start a business that requires a VAT number, however im not sure if i can get one. Ive looked online and have ben unable to obtain the answers that i wanted. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you

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kourtney

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: VAT status for European touring

How do i get a UK VAT Refund if am buying online? Whats d procedure?

I am eligible to claim a VAT refund on my purchases. The in-store procedures are very clear to me but i dont know how to go about claiming it on online purchases.

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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: VAT status for European touring

Hi! Kourtney

If you need to register for VAT contact your local Customs and Excise Office

under Inland Revenue Phone numbers in the 'phone book.

However I think perhaps you need some professional advice before you submit

to that procedure. Contact a Professional Accountant first for some guidance

and a discussion of what reasons you require the VAT number.

Once registered you won't ever get them off your back ...like the Revenue.

BTW you don't need a VAT Number just to tour in Europe or anywhere else.

Regards

Bob H  G-PTAG



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josok-e(at)ukolo.fi
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: VAT status for European touring

Hi Kourtney,

You probably googled your way into here, but this not a VAT related forum, we generally are talking about the Europa airplane here. 

In other words: you are more then slightly off topic.

Google again, and find help elsewhere please.

Further Europa unrelated postings will be removed.

Regards,



Jos Okhuijsen

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