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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: Usefulness of the stock stall warning system Vs AOA indicat Reply with quote
Hi Stuewe C

One thing to think about is if your piltot tube gets plugged. Not only would you loss indicated airspeed but also your stall warning with the exception of airframe buffeting and control feel. Just something to think about.

Vern Smith (#324)

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Date: Wed C 11 Nov 2009 14:01:28 -0600
Subject: RV10-List: Usefulness of the stock stall warning system Vs AOA indications
From: stuewe(at)gmail.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Hello fellow listers!

I am building an RV-10 and have been lurking here for a while.  I have come to a point in the build where I have to make a decision soon and I'm looking for some input from those who have gone before me.

I'm building my wings and I am considering not including the stock stall warning system.  I am planning on installing a Dynon EFIS system with the dual-holed pitot probe to provide AOA indication.  I'm thinking that should provide all the stall warning information that I would need.  Am I overlooking something?  Is there a good reason to go ahead and include the stock stall warning system?

Thanks C
Stuewe
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Usefulness of the stock stall warning system Vs AOA indicat Reply with quote
Christopher Stuewe wrote:
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Hello fellow listers!

I am building an RV-10 and have been lurking here for a while. I have
come to a point in the build where I have to make a decision soon and
I'm looking for some input from those who have gone before me.

I'm building my wings and I am considering not including the stock stall
warning system.
I thought the same, but I bought someone else's kit and it's already

included ..... so I'll put it in.
I am planning on installing a Dynon EFIS system with
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the dual-holed pitot probe to provide AOA indication. I'm thinking that
should provide all the stall warning information that I would need.
I would agree, as long as the AOA is set up correctly.

Am
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I overlooking something? Is there a good reason to go ahead and include
the stock stall warning system?
Welllll ..... I really don't think you NEED either. If you stall

inadvertently .... then you aren't paying attention, and you're a
passenger. You should have plenty of warning .... turbulence on the
wings from air that is almost separating (a stall strip will help
here).... and the sound of the airplane ...... there are a lot of clues,
notwithstanding the airspeed and attitude indicator. The stall switch
is relatively cheap compared with your Dynon's AOA capability. I'll
have both .... the AOA probe which I'll make myself, and the stall
switch will be part of my MGL Odyssey installation.
Linn
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Thanks,
Stuewe
stuewe(at)gmail.com <mailto:stuewe(at)gmail.com>



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davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Usefulness of the stock stall warning system Vs AOA indicat Reply with quote
This came at just the right time. I am building my wings now and the Dynon heated AOA/Pitot will be here tomorrow. I am going to install the kit supplied stall warning system just because.

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dmaib(at)mac.com
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Usefulness of the stock stall warning system Vs AOA indicat Reply with quote
I am surprised to hear that you are having calibration problems. Mine
has performed flawlessly right out of the box. I thought that the
unit comes from AFS set up for particular models of airplane? I seem
to remember Stein telling me something like that a couple of years
ago when I was building.

David Maib
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Flying.

On Nov 11, 2009, at 5:15 PM, lbgjb10 wrote:



I have AFS and use their AOA and elected not to have a stall horn.
I've struggled getting the thing calibrated correctly even having
done it 3 or 4 times. It's still not correct. However, the -10
really is very docile and gives huge warning about stalling so I
really don't think it makes much difference what you do, maybe unless
your hanging it on the edge going into the jungle with a very short
runway and like the sound of the stall horn or the AOA and hope their
correct!!!! larry

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davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject: Usefulness of the stock stall warning system Vs AOA indicat Reply with quote
I just don't understand the logic of not using everything available to add to the safety of flying. I am installing the Dynon pitot/AOA, but am still going to install the stall warning kit included by Vans. Inadvertant stalls are a real danger and the statistics point that out.  Someone mentioned that you have to be comatose to not recognize the pre-stall buffets, but for whatever reason it happens and pilots die. Why add the risk??

David Clifford
Tailcone Done
Working on the wings
Engine overhauled and waiting

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Usefulness of the stock stall warning system Vs AOA indicat Reply with quote
Maintenance. Everything you add to your aircraft requires routine and breakdown maintenance. I already have two electronic reminders besides the stick buffet; I chose not to add another to avoid checking its operation before each flight and fixing it when it does not work.

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I just don't understand the logic of not using everything available to add to the safety of flying. I am installing the Dynon pitot/AOA, but am still going to install the stall warning kit included by Vans. Inadvertant stalls are a real danger and the statistics point that out. Someone mentioned that you have to be comatose to not recognize the pre-stall buffets, but for whatever reason it happens and pilots die. Why add the risk??

David Clifford
Tailcone Done
Working on the wings
Engine overhauled and waiting

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