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flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after 29 years of ownership to build an

RV-10 (he previously built and owns an RV-8A).  The details are shown on his website along with contact information.  I have flown in the plane several times (IFR) and it is a good solid plane that is flown IFR regularly and has been well maintained.  It has a high time engine and is priced accordingly.  This will allow the new owner to do exactly what he or she wants with the engine.



http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale

Cliff  A&P/IA

GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b(at)ashcreekwireless.com writes:

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		   A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after 29

 


	


It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition.   High time 

airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics.   For 35 to 40K it would be 

a good first plane for someone.   The interior looks original.   A 76 has no 

corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple glue.



FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane.   With a new engine, it 

still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic avionics.   



I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K.   1115 TTAF/E, painted in '97, basic 

avionics, autopilot.   prices haven't gone up that much, if at all.



Jamey is asking $97,000 for his   '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new Lycoming 

cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, full Garmin avionics 

stack.   



Gary

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flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that price of 

justify the price.  Personally, I think it is to high also, but not $20K to 

high, more like $10K.



While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine overhaul 

for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be replaced and the 

baffling doesn't need much work.  The plane was repainted in 97 and $5000 

would do a pretty decent interior.  The KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd 

Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 

and result in pretty nice avionics.  That's $35K on top of $50K say for a 

total of $85K.  How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K with 1000 

SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders?  Obviously, the 76 model year and 

4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been cross country flying. 

Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane that is used for instruction 

and rental.



Cliff



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jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;)



Jamey

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rcmutz(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger for Sale

I have watched Tiger and Cheetah prices via the web for the last 3-4 years.  

It is pretty amazing what some of the "asking" prices are.  I wonder what 

some of these planes with mid-time engines, 3000 TT, Narco avionics, 

original paint/interior are REALLY going for.  Seems like the Grumman Tiger 

owners are living in la la land....of course...you all know how the saying 

goes....a fool born everyday...



I guess if I spent $15K on new avionics, I'd want $15K back too ..... as 

soon as they are put in the airplane they are used and worth about 85% of 

the purchased price.  Of course new paint is only worth about 80%.  The only 

thing that is close to a 100% is an engine overhaul up to about 400 hrs and 

then it begins to loose value as well.



Richard Mutzman

AA5A

guy4sky(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his!

   

  

James Courtney <jamey(at)jamescourtney.net> wrote:

  



Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;)



Jamey

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aviation(at)acs-group.net
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger for Sale

Oh I disagree on that point. My experience has been that selling a plane 

that is near overhaul will leave you more net money in your pocket

than doing an overhaul and then selling.....Every time. You have to fly 

out the value of a new engine or eat it.



Richard Mutzman wrote:



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The only thing that is close to a 100% is an engine overhaul up to about 400 hrs snip



Richard Mutzman
	




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jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Where's Bill's plane listed?



Jamey

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flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale



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jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Thanks Cliff!



A nice plane!



Jamey



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flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Well, it's not nearly as nice as yours but probably as good as the average 

one that is for sale.

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jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

The panel is nice (dual GS, HSI, nice overlay), the paint is great, and only

the 2nd owner who it sounds like took excellent care of her.  I've certainly

got a few things on my Tiger that it doesn't but it's still a very nice

plane and hopefully it finds a good home.



When are you down this way again?



Cheers,

Jamey

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flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

I was just down there a week ago.  Won't be again until maybe late May. 

I'll be in Reno (Stead I think) on May 6 to do some glider training.



Cliff

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BDDenham(at)lasd.org
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Where are you lacated?



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flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Independence, OR, just west of Salem (the capitol).

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N26390(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

In a message dated 04/10/2006 5:34:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  

flyv35b(at)ashcreekwireless.com writes:



Independence, OR, just west of Salem (the  capitol).



Hey guys, take these individual conversations off the network.

BDDenham(at)lasd.org
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

Thanks



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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

In a message dated 4/10/06 2:10:02 PM, flyv35b(at)ashcreekwireless.com writes:

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		   I was just down there a week ago.=A0 Won't be again until maybe late May.

 I'll be in Reno (Stead I think) on May 6 to do some glider training.



 Cliff




	


Stop by and say hi

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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: 76 Tiger For Sale

In a message dated 4/10/06 3:09:33 PM, N26390(at)aol.com writes:



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		   Hey guys, take these individual conversations off the network.

 


	


This isn't the Grumman Gang.   If they want to chat, it's up to them.   This 

is an OPEN forum.   



Get used to it.

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