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Allen Fulmer
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 Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:06 am Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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“Well, now I’ve gone and done it!” Flap motor installed but I decided I would see what folks were talking about with flap motor/gearbox grease causing problems. While trying to put the motor back together I managed to break one of the carbon brushes trying to get it back in its little hole! $389 for whole flap motor assembly, $89.00 for replacement motor from Allied Electronics (http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=3880012), no luck on just the brush holder and brushes so far.
Anyone else had to replace the brush holder and brushes or complete flap motor?
Can I get away with replacing just the motor?
Thanks,
Allen Fulmer
RV7 Finishing wiring
Alexander City, AL
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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Allen,
The motor doesn't look like the exact same thing. It may be functionally, but I would be wary of the size. Also, I think that the little gear on the end will be your biggest problem.
If the motors are enough alike, you can take the brush assy from the new motor and use it on the original....just a thought.
I've had to clean mine already too - so I know what a bugger it can be.
Ralph
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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I've heard that Home Depot has brushes, but never looked for them. If the brushes aren't an exact match, they can be carefully sanded to size .... carefully, as you well know!!! Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
Linn
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“Well, now I’ve gone and done it!” Flap motor installed but I decided I would see what folks were talking about with flap motor/gearbox grease causing problems. While trying to put the motor back together I managed to break one of the carbon brushes trying to get it back in its little hole! $389 for whole flap motor assembly, $89.00 for replacement motor from Allied Electronics (http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=3880012), no luck on just the brush holder and brushes so far.
Anyone else had to replace the brush holder and brushes or complete flap motor?
Can I get away with replacing just the motor?
Thanks,
Allen Fulmer
RV7 Finishing wiring
Alexander City, AL
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chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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Allen,
Stan Gould posted about this in May of last year. I saved the info and will send you a copy off list.
Charlie Kuss
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Subject: Flap motor brushes
To: "Rv-List(at)Matronics." <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:49 AM
“Well, now I’ve gone and done
it!”
Flap motor installed but I decided I would see what folks
were talking about
with flap motor/gearbox grease causing problems.
While trying to put the
motor back together I managed to break one of the carbon
brushes trying to get
it back in its little hole! $389 for whole flap motor
assembly, $89.00
for replacement motor from Allied Electronics (http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=3880012),
no luck on just the brush holder and brushes so
far.
Anyone else had to replace the brush holder
and brushes or complete flap motor?
Can I get away with replacing just the
motor?
Thanks,
Allen Fulmer
RV7 Finishing wiring
Alexander City, AL
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HCRV6(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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Hey Charlie, how about posting that info to the list as well. A lot of us would like to have it just in case.
Harry Crosby
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chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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No can do. It involves photos, which won't post. I actually saved it all as a pdf file, which won't post either. I'll send you a copy off list.
Charlie
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[quote] From: HCRV6(at)comcast.net <HCRV6(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Flap motor brushes
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 6:58 PM
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{margin:0;}Hey
Charlie, how about posting that info to the list as
well. A lot of us would like to have it just in case.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 648 hours
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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Charlie, this a test of a photo .... showing my re-routed brake lines as an insert to the email and as an attachment. Hope it works. Linn
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Charles Kuss wrote: [quote] [quote]--> RV-List message posted by: Charles Kuss <chaskuss(at)yahoo.com> (chaskuss(at)yahoo.com)
No can do. It involves photos, which won't post. I actually saved it all as a pdf file, which won't post either. I'll send you a copy off list.
Charlie
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[quote]From: HCRV6(at)comcast.net (HCRV6(at)comcast.net) <HCRV6(at)comcast.net> (HCRV6(at)comcast.net) Subject: Re: Flap motor brushes To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com) Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 6:58 PM #yiv83213696 p {margin:0;}Hey Charlie, how about posting that info to the list as well. A lot of us would like to have it just in case. Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 648 hours ---
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chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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Harry,
Here is some of the info. There is actually an early and a late flap motor. Vans changed vendors in 2002. The whole story on that can be found here.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/flap_motor.pdf
You can find lots of info on the flap motors here
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=5824&highlight=Flap+motor+brushes
Charlie
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Subject: Re: Flap motor brushes
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Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 6:58 PM
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{margin:0;}Hey
Charlie, how about posting that info to the list as
well. A lot of us would like to have it just in case.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 648 hours
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chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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Here is the info I mentioned earlier.
Charlie
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chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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Linn,
I stand corrected. I'll post the document to the list.
Charlie
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From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Flap motor brushes
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:42 PM
Charlie, this a test of a photo .... showing my re-routed brake lines as an insert to the email and as an attachment. Hope it works. Linn
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Charles Kuss wrote: [quote] [quote]--> RV-List message posted by: Charles Kuss HCRV6(at)comcast.net (HCRV6(at)comcast.net) HCRV6(at)comcast.net (HCRV6(at)comcast.net) [url=/mc/compose?to=HCRV6(at)comcast.net]<HCRV6(at)comcast.net>[/url]
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Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 6:58 PM
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{margin:0;}Hey
Charlie, how about posting that info to the list as
well. A lot of us would like to have it just in case.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 648 hours
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: Flap motor brushes |
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Thanks Charlie! ....
Allen, I've had really good luck replacing motor brushes by making a tube of thin plastic ..... 6 mil stuff from the hardware store .... and wrapping it around the commutator and then sliding the brush assembly down over the plastic tube. Keeps the brushes from hitting the end of the commutator and breaking.
Take it slow and rock the brush assembly a little while using a thin pick to push the brushes into their pockets while sliding the assembly over the commutator.
Linn
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