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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: Overhead map and panel lighting options

I'm looking for some suggestions for overhead lighting.  I have Dave 

Saylor's mini console and would like to choose some lights to install in 

it.

Stein and ACS have some swivel LED lights and they look good.  

Perihelion goosenecks look interesting but not sure how they really look.



I assume dimming them would be a good thing but not mandatory.  Or 

switches are required.



I'm thinking a white light and a separate red or blue would the 

solution.  I've flown with red but never with blue.  Not sure what the 

trade-offs are.



BTW, I'm installing the 430W GPS antenna directly over the mini-console  

with the cable going thru the center post.  I'm also in the process of 

installing 2 more GPS antenna (GRT & ADI) on the windshield lip so that 

they will clear any paint.  They will be angled slightly forward but I'm 

thinking that will work well.  All of those cables plus power for the 

lights seems to be fitting in the center post.



What do you think?



Bill "ready for some NYE celebration" Watson

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: Overhead map and panel lighting options

Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:

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 <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>



 I'm looking for some suggestions for overhead lighting.  I have Dave 

 Saylor's mini console and would like to choose some lights to install 

 in it.

 Stein and ACS have some swivel LED lights and they look good.  

 Perihelion goosenecks look interesting but not sure how they really look.

I'm building my own overhead console and going to use it to duct fresh 
	


air overhead and a place to put overhead lights.  I also looked at 

Stein's lights.  The base is reasonable, but the LED lights that fit are 

$50!!!  I'm probably going to order one base and see if I can't use a 

$15 LED turn signal.  

http://www.amazon.com/VOLVO-replacement-blinker-light-signal/dp/B000LL9W4I

 	  Quote: 	
		   I assume dimming them would be a good thing but not mandatory.  Or 

 switches are required.

I'd definitely provide a switch for each light.  Dimmable is a good idea.
	


 	  Quote: 	
		   I'm thinking a white light and a separate red or blue would the 

 solution.  I've flown with red but never with blue.  Not sure what the 

 trade-offs are.

Well, I found out that the magenta on a chart disappears with red 
	


light!  I plan on giving each seat a white light

 	  Quote: 	
		   BTW, I'm installing the 430W GPS antenna directly over the 

 mini-console  with the cable going thru the center post.  I'm also in 

 the process of installing 2 more GPS antenna (GRT & ADI) on the 

 windshield lip so that they will clear any paint.  They will be angled 

 slightly forward but I'm thinking that will work well.  All of those 

 cables plus power for the lights seems to be fitting in the center post.



 What do you think?

I think you're on the right track.
	


Linn

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Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: Overhead map and panel lighting options

Bill "up too late" Watson,



Have you checked out these from Aveo Engineering?  They have switches

and dimmers built directly into the light frame and use touch sensing

like the old iPods.



This one is a white/red combo:

http://www.aveoengineering.com/Aviation/Airplane_LED_Lights/cockpit_LED_

lights/EyeBeam_Touch/index.php



This one is a white/red/green/blue combo:

http://www.aveoengineering.com/Aviation/Airplane_LED_Lights/cockpit_LED_

lights/EyeBeam_Touch_NVG/index.php



I'm not sure if they're available for sale yet, but it might be worth a

phone call just to check.  I'm hoping to get serious about light

purchases at OSH this year, so if they aren't available - I hope they

are by OSH.



Phil





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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: Overhead map and panel lighting options

I put one each of Stein's swivel LEDs in the front edge or our console.  I had to go back later and really slather up the securing nuts with flox to make them stay tight.  No problems now, though.  Nice and tight.  They're dimmed by pots on the panel.

  

I recently put one of Van's $9 white LEDs pointing straight down in the same console.  It runs off a little overhead toggle switch.  I understand it'll run off a 9V battery, and it would be cool to have another position on the switch to select that, you know, just in case...

  Dave Saylor

AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell

 



On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:

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 I'm looking for some suggestions for overhead lighting.  I have Dave Saylor's mini console and would like to choose some lights to install in it.

 Stein and ACS have some swivel LED lights and they look good.  Perihelion goosenecks look interesting but not sure how they really look.

 

 I assume dimming them would be a good thing but not mandatory.  Or switches are required.

 

 I'm thinking a white light and a separate red or blue would the solution.  I've flown with red but never with blue.  Not sure what the trade-offs are.

 

 BTW, I'm installing the 430W GPS antenna directly over the mini-console  with the cable going thru the center post.  I'm also in the process of installing 2 more GPS antenna (GRT & ADI) on the windshield lip so that they will clear any paint.  They will be angled slightly forward but I'm thinking that will work well.  All of those cables plus power for the lights seems to be fitting in the center post.

   

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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: Overhead map and panel lighting options

Spruce has the Aveo lights for sale for $139 each (cough)...plus $9 for the faceplate and $5 for the sticky stuff to hold 'em on.



I kind of like the reassuring snap of a toggle switch.

Dave Saylor

  AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell

 



On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Perry, Phil <Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com (Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com)> wrote:

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 Bill "up too late" Watson,

 

 Have you checked out these from Aveo Engineering?  They have switches

 and dimmers built directly into the light frame and use touch sensing

 like the old iPods.

 

 This one is a white/red combo:

 http://www.aveoengineering.com/Aviation/Airplane_LED_Lights/cockpit_LED_

 lights/EyeBeam_Touch/index.php

 

 This one is a white/red/green/blue combo:

 http://www.aveoengineering.com/Aviation/Airplane_LED_Lights/cockpit_LED_

 lights/EyeBeam_Touch_NVG/index.php

 

 I'm not sure if they're available for sale yet, but it might be worth a

 phone call just to check.  I'm hoping to get serious about light

 purchases at OSH this year, so if they aren't available - I hope they

 are by OSH.

 

 Phil

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Overhead map and panel lighting options

I bought the Aveoflash position lights and overhead lights (eyebeams).  I thought after seeing how cool the position lights were, I had to buy the eyebeams.  They are not as cool as you think.  Mine came from Aircraft Spruce and looked as if they had been demo models.  The face plates were falling off and they looked like someone rubbed their finger up and down them a million times.  Come to find out Aircraft Spruce sells the bezels and adhesive separate because I'm sure everyone who bought these wants to replace the bezels after a short period of use.  They are also big, 3-1/16 diameter.  I am now trying to find a place on Geoff's awesome carbon fiber overhead to fit them.  I may put one up front and one in back, if I keep them.  I called Aircraft Spruce about the Eyebeams' bezels, they are so good about returns.  I had them send me two new bezels and adhesive (free) so I can replace mine that I haven't even used yet.  I plan on buying some protective plastic material like the one on Iphones if using the lights.

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Overhead map and panel lighting options

Bill,



I went with Stein's led lights; one for each seat. Based on the recommendation of an ophthalmologist friend who has a stable of 6 planes( C150, C180 on floats, Pitts S2, C421, Fuqua jet, Citation) I got the blue ones. His short explanation is that blue is better for seeing things inside the cabin( maps, charts, etc.) while red is better for seeing stuff outside.



The swivel on Stein's lights plus a dimmer makes for a very flexible lighting system.



Jim Berry

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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: Overhead map and panel lighting options

I think I'm going to do the same.  Sounds like you didn't use the base 

but just threaded them directly with added flox for reinforcement.  Got it.



Did you get the red ones?  That's my plan.  They are basic panel 

illumination for anything unlit (not much that is).



The Aveos look sweet but a little too pricey.  Some sort of cheap white 

button unit like the Vans unit sounds right.  I may just go for a 

separate battery-only unit. for the backup.  Then I'd have 2 dimmable 

red units and an undimmed white unit.



That little console is working out nice.  Nutserts work well for the 

screwing.  The 430W attenna goes in perfectly.  Good position on the 

plane, covered by the mini-console nicely.  Good solution overall.  I 

may try to post a pic or two to the list.



Thanks.



Dave Saylor wrote:

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		   I put one each of Stein's swivel LEDs in the front edge or our 

 console.  I had to go back later and really slather up the securing 

 nuts with flox to make them stay tight.  No problems now, though.  

 Nice and tight.  They're dimmed by pots on the panel.



 I recently put one of Van's $9 white LEDs pointing straight down in 

 the same console.  It runs off a little overhead toggle switch.  I 

 understand it'll run off a 9V battery, and it would be cool to have 

 another position on the switch to select that, you know, just in case...



 Dave Saylor

 AirCrafters LLC

 140 Aviation Way

 Watsonville, CA 95076

 831-722-9141 Shop

 831-750-0284 Cell

 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Bill Mauledriver Watson 

 <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com <mailto:MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>> wrote:



     

     <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com <mailto:MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>>



     I'm looking for some suggestions for overhead lighting.  I have

     Dave Saylor's mini console and would like to choose some lights to

     install in it.

     Stein and ACS have some swivel LED lights and they look good.

      Perihelion goosenecks look interesting but not sure how they

     really look.



     I assume dimming them would be a good thing but not mandatory.  Or

     switches are required.



     I'm thinking a white light and a separate red or blue would the

     solution.  I've flown with red but never with blue.  Not sure what

     the trade-offs are.



     BTW, I'm installing the 430W GPS antenna directly over the

     mini-console  with the cable going thru the center post.  I'm also

     in the process of installing 2 more GPS antenna (GRT & ADI) on the

     windshield lip so that they will clear any paint.  They will be

     angled slightly forward but I'm thinking that will work well.  All

     of those cables plus power for the lights seems to be fitting in

     the center post.



     What do you think?



     Bill "ready for some NYE celebration" Watson

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