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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

The last few orders from Aircraft Spruce I placed got sooooooooooooooooo screwed up I really wanted to wring their necks,,Of course when I called to complain they tried to spin it around to look like  it was a simple mistake on their part and "I need them" and not" they need us". What they really need is a BOYCOTT on sales. They are so arrogent now ,Jim Irwin , the owner probably won't even get it though.   Oh yeah... I want this archived too.



Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



-- "Doug Eatman" <pilotdna(at)hotmail.com> wrote:




If by smiles you mean small creases/dings, I found that the suggestion in 

the rudder construction manual of pressing and rolling a regular steel spoon 

(from your kitchen, not a special tool) on the back side of the metal will 

work them right out.  That was on .016 though, I haven't progressed as far 

as the fuselage yet so I don't know how thick your part is.  I suspect .025 

is still workable with this method (and a strong thumb to push into the 

spoon.)



I learned this after my first shipment of metal from Aircraft Spruce arrived 

poorly crated and dinged to garbage, and they refused to take it back after 

numerous phone calls.  I got the piece I wanted to use for my stab skin 

satisfactorily straight with the spoon method (backed by plywood while 

"spooning" out the dings), and found that it turns a real crease into a 

barely visible wavy spot that you wouldn't notice without really looking for 

it.  Sure beat not building for a year while saving pennies for more metal 

(I'm a 20 year old engineering student).



Do Not Archive (or order metal from Aircraft spruce!)



Douglas Eatman

601XL scrap build/corvair

 

 

 



The last few orders from Aircraft Spruce I placed got sooooooooooooooooo screwed up I really wanted to wring their necks,,Of course whenI called to complain they tried to spin it around to look like it was a simple mistake on their part and "I need them" and not" they need us". What they really need is a BOYCOTT on sales. They are so arrogent now ,Jim Irwin , the owner probably won't even get it though. Oh yeah... I want this archived too.



BenHaas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



--"DougEatman"pilotdna(at)hotmail.comwrote:

--Zenith-Listmessagepostedby:"DougEatman"pilotdna(at)hotmail.com



Ifbysmilesyoumeansmallcreases/dings,Ifoundthatthesuggestionin

therudderconstructionmanualofpressingandrollingaregularsteelspoon

(fromyourkitchen,notaspecialtool)onthebacksideofthemetalwill

workthemrightout.Thatwason.016though,Ihaven'tprogressedasfar

asthefuselageyetsoIdon'tknowhowthickyourpartis.Isuspect.025

isstillworkablewiththismethod(andastrongthumbtopushintothe

spoon.)



IlearnedthisaftermyfirstshipmentofmetalfromAircraftSprucearrived

poorlycratedanddingedtogarbage,andtheyrefusedtotakeitbackafter

numerousphonecalls.IgotthepieceIwantedtouseformystabskin

satisfactorilystraightwiththespoonmethod(backedbyplywoodwhile

"spooning"outthedings),andfoundthatitturnsarealcreaseintoa

barelyvisiblewavyspotthatyouwouldn'tnoticewithoutreallylookingfor

it.Surebeatnotbuildingforayearwhilesavingpenniesformoremetal

(I'ma20yearoldengineeringstudent).



DoNotArchive(orordermetalfromAircraftspruce!)



DouglasEatman

601XLscrapbuild/corvair

pkleinjan(at)execulink.co
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

I agree, a simple order of solid rivets is taking 3 weeks to ship? no more 

aircraft spruce for me!

p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:17 am Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

Maybe it is just luck of the draw.  I have been getting excellent 

service from Aircraft Spruce.  They always ship the same day I order, 

and usually have everything I want in stock.



I guess different folks get different experiences.



Paul

XL wings



At 06:28 AM 4/10/2006, you wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  The last few orders from Aircraft Spruce I placed got 

sooooooooooooooooo screwed up I really wanted to wring their 

necks,,Of course when I called to complain they tried to spin it 

around to look like  it was a simple mistake on their part and "I 

need them" and not" they need us". What they really need is a 

BOYCOTT on sales. They are so arrogent now ,Jim Irwin , the owner 

probably won't even get it though.   Oh yeah... I want this archived too.



Ben Ha


	


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Paul Mulwitz

32013 NE Dial Road

Camas, WA 98607

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agustafson(at)chartermi.n
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

I've always gotten great service from Wicks.

I also notice the attitude at ACS

A.   do not archive

dredmoody(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Maybe it is just luck of the draw.  I have been getting excellent 

 service from Aircraft Spruce. 


	


Me too...... I haven't had much trouble with orders, shipping or availability over the last three years of doing business with them. Other mail and online order places seem to be about the same too. Just one of those "who knows?" things I guess.



Ed Moody II

Rayne, LA

601XL wings

Mitch Hodges

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 45
Location: Powder Springs, GA

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

I see a East/West distribution trend in the responses.  Maybe that is the difference.  They do ship from CA or GA depending on your location.



Mitch Hodges

DO NOT ARCHIVE



[quote="dredmoody(at)cox.net"] 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Maybe it is just luck of the draw.  I have been getting excellent 

 service from Aircraft Spruce.

leogates(at)allvantage.co
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

7 years with ACS, excellent service.  I live in Texas and get shipments 

from both CA and GA.  I think it depends on which has all, or most of 

order in stock.



Leo Gates

N601Z

do not archive



 	  Quote: 	
		  I see a East/West distribution trend in the responses.  Maybe that is the difference.  They do ship from CA or GA depending on your location.



Mitch Hodges

DO NOT ARCHIVE

hrs1(at)frontiernet.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

I also get excellent service from A/S - and today I received a very nice 

pocket knife in response to a promotion about a month ago for sending in a 

name of someone to receive their catalogue.  I also like the Cleaveland Tool 

Company for super service, good products, and excellent advice.  Robert 

Schoenberger 701 do not archive.

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David X

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 154
Location: Princeton, NJ, USA

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

Also no problem with ACS. I've sometimes forgot some item or other in a previous order and will put in a second order with a note to try to ship them together. They did. Packaging is good, delivery speed is good. No real complaints here.

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Zodiac 601 XL - CZAW Built - Rotax 912S
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rdewees(at)mindspring.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

I know these anticdotes could easily get out of hand but I havestrong 

opinions about ACS (Georgia).  I live about 35 miles from ACS  in 

Georgia and naturally drive there for large orders.  I've gotten to know 

the parts manager, Tim, who is a great help and has a wonderful sense of 

humor.  Last year I took a gas tank there to look for a cap for it.  I 

forgot it and he called me up and made a trip to town to return it to 

me.  They will have to raise prices a LOT before I switch from that kind 

of service.

 Just my opinion..

Ron



do not archive



David X wrote:



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Also no problem with ACS. I've sometimes forgot some item or other in a previous order and will put in a second order with a note to try to ship them together. They did. Packaging is good, delivery speed is good. No real complaints here.



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Zodiac 601 XL - CZAW Built - Rotax 912S

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JAPhillipsGA(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: Smiles. now aircraft spruce

I know Tim and Allen and the whole bunch from Spruce in Georgia and I ditto 

what Ron said. Good folks, helped me a bunch, and honest. The Boss sets the 

prices, but the workers make the business, FWIW, Bill of Georgia

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