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Troy Maynor

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 162

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:46 pm Post subject: Lifting the Europa

Hey Guys and Gals,

  

 When folks talk about lifting a Europa by the  engine mount are they referring to the mount forward of the lord mounts or aft  of the lord mounts? I need to lift my Classic monowheel for maintenance in  the garage without the wings on it. I am thinking about having a welded stand  with the hydraulic jack added like someone on the forum made for lifting, but  the exhaust pipe is in the way on the port side. I need to get the weight off  the tire to fiddle with the brace for the landing gear handle mod. It was too  stiff laterally as I remember from last I did it. I made too fancy of a brace  than the angle stock I had on earlier. That was before the engine was installed  and things were easier then. Thoughts, ideas anyone?

  

 Troy Maynor

Monowheel Classic UK120

Passed  inspection, first flight soon.

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craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: Lifting the Europa

If you  still have the dummy spar, perhaps you could make/get made a steel tube with the  correct spacing to replicate the main spar setup, and jack from  there

  

 craig

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jrgowing(at)bigpond.net.a
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: Lifting the Europa

craig

  

 I think you could lift from just about any  part of the engine mount 

 At the moment my fuselage is more or less hangine  from the propeller boss with a little stabilisation

  

 JR Bob Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz..

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craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:13 pm Post subject: Lifting the Europa

I just  had concerns about asymetric loading of the mount itself, given the mount is  designed for a "tension" load pulling forward under normal

 flight  conditions, but given it has to support the weight of the engine at 8G ultimate  load which is about 600kg depending on engine choice, you

 are  probably correct.

  

 craig

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jrgowing(at)bigpond.net.a
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:53 am Post subject: Lifting the Europa

YOu have given it more thought than I

 JR

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stephan(at)scassel.se
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:49 am Post subject: Lifting the Europa

Hi Troy,

  

 Another approach is the "mini dolly":

  

 http://www.scassel.se/europa/dolly1.jpg

 http://www.scassel.se/europa/dolly2.jpg   (aircraft level)

  

 The dolly is attached on one of the strongest part  of the fuselage, i.e. where the cockpit-module, fuselage and firewall are bound  together.

  

 It is important to create/mould the support blocks  on the fuselage in order to fit perfect.

  

 Between the support block and fuselage is quite  hard rubber. Each support block has 5 mm bolt through the fuselage, just in  case.

 After 5 years of use (also during the  finishing of the kit ) the fuselage has not moved a fraction of mm from the  dolly.

  

 The dolly should be made with full tank (max load)  and a piece of wood 2" under the wheel, see picture  otherwise you can not operate the landing gear

 properly in level, see pic

  

 You also need a tail wheel support, see  pic

  

  I use my "mini-dolly" one every service. Even 50 hours service.  I can check flaps/landing gear/outrigger ++ very  easy.

  

 Please feel free if you need any offline info.

  

 Best regards

  

 Stephan Cassel

 LN-STE 230 hours - third year

  

  

  

  



  

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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:51 am Post subject: Lifting the Europa

On Jan 31, 2010, at 3:58 AM, Stephan Cassel wrote:

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http://www.scassel.se/europa/dolly1.jpg

http://www.scassel.se/europa/dolly2.jpg   (aircraft level)



	




Outstanding Stephen !!

Could you please describe your procedure for getting your dolly in place on your XS?

It's not clear to me how you raise the aircraft to get the dolly under it.

Thanks,

Fred

carl(at)flyers.freeserve.
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:05 am Post subject: Lifting the Europa

Safest option is to invest in a hydraulic engine  hoist and lift using the engine mounting frame (secure with rope aft of the lord  mounts).

  

 I recently purchased one for £125 on Ebay. Sounds  expensive but once flying you will need to lift the aircraft every year (fully  rigged) for the annual inspection so over the years it will prove to be a  worthwhile investment.

  

 Heres one like I bought - I expect they are cheaper  in the USA.

  

 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-TON-FOLDING-HYDRAULIC-ENGINE-CRANE-HOIST-LIFT_W0QQitemZ110465901864QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment?hash=item19b847e528

  

 Its folding so can be stored in the corner of the  garage.

  

 Anything that relies on jacks needs to be pretty  secure or you risk getting squashed.

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Rowland_Carson

Joined: 04 Jul 2008
Posts: 155
Location: Cheltenham, England

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:13 am Post subject: Lifting the Europa

At 2010-01-30 15:43 -0500 Troy Maynor wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  When folks talk about lifting a Europa by the engine mount are they 

referring to the mount forward of the lord mounts or aft of the lord 

mounts


	


Troy - I'd advise aft of the mounts. This will give a more stable 

lifting position and will not stress the mounts unnecessarily. You 

can see how we did it last year on Tim Houlihan's G-BZTH in my Picasa 

album at:



http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson/EuropaMiscellaneous



I needed to extend the jib fully to reach aft of the mounts, and some 

care was required in choosing the strop attach point to avoid 

damaging pipes, wires etc.



regards



Rowland

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klaus.dietrich(at)oracle.
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:30 am Post subject: Lifting the Europa

some years back there was a description in the "Europa Flyer" of a cradle for the Europa; I built it several years ago and it served me well!

 With it you can easily change the wheel and operate the flaps etc. 

 However once the plane is lifted I support it under the wings with two cradles.

 http://picasaweb.google.at/kdietric1/EuropaCraddle?authkey=Gv1sRgCLqKkOzD1c9l&feat=directlink

 

 Klaus (OE-CKD)

 

 

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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:29 am Post subject: Lifting the Europa

Like this? This is how I have done it and will  do.

  

 I use four lifting straps all capable for +200  kgs.

  

 Notice 1: the wings are supported only just to  keep the plane stable sideways, not to take weight.

 Notice 2: what more you lift that more you stress  the tail wheel (if the tail is not supported /lifted).

  

 Raimo OH-XRT

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Troy Maynor

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 162

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: Lifting the Europa

Folks,

  

 I just wanted to thank everyone that replied on the  above subject. In the short term I used an engine hoist and nylon webbing lashed  around the two upper members of the landing gear/engine mount frame that  protrude through the firewall. I worked fine. Long term though I want one of the  jacks like the one Bob Borger has on his build page. I think I can adapt it for  my Classic. Thanks again for this great forum.

 Troy

 Plane finished, waiting better weather and a bit  more stick time for first flight. 

  

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