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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Fuel Tank Sealer Reply with quote

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We previously built a 601 HDS and our EAA technical advisor strongly
recommended we seal our tanks before installing them. We got
Randolph Products #912 sloshing compound from Aircraft Spruce and
sloshed all four tanks. While we never had any fuel leaks in the
four + years we flew the aircraft I am now wondering if it is
necessary with the Zenair tanks as they seem to be very
professionally done.

I am working on the right wing now and installation of the tank is
close at hand. I am wondering what the experience has been with
those who have installed Zenair tanks. I would appreciate
information on those who have installed Zenair built tanks and if any
fuel leaks have developed; and, if so, what might have been the
problem. If you have installed their tanks and did not slosh them;
have you had any problems with them? How long installed, and number
of hours flown would be very helpful.

One other question is prompted by the April 2006 EAA Sport Pilot
Magazine. On page 30 of the article on the RANS S-7LS there is a
picture of the sight gauge for their 9-gallon tank. I have also
noted that the Aviat Husky has a sight gauge. I was always thankful
we had a sight gauge on our HDS and would like to do the same on the
wing tanks of my 701. Has any one used a sight gauge on their 701;
and, if so, how was it installed?

Thanking you in advance for your responses.

Stan Challgren
701/?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Fuel Tank Sealer Reply with quote

I had a leak in a 601 wing tank at around 200 hours...Too sharp a bend
on the flange that was welded and it cracked.

I also know of an aircraft that made a forced landing in a field due to
sloshing compound...It made dangly strings which hardened and broke off
in flight plugging the fuel filters.

Frank

601HDS 395 hours

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject: Fuel Tank Sealer Reply with quote

Stan,
I've heard of people having problems with sloshing compounds breaking up in
the tank when they are exposed to different fuel additives such as MTBE.
Bits peel of the tank wall and hopefully get caught in the filter before
reaching the carb.

Perhaps if you stick to avgas you will be okay but I suggest you dig through
the various archives before you make a final descision. It's easy enough to
get the sloshing compound into the tank but a bugger to get it out if you
change your mind Smile.

Graham Kirby
601HD

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We previously built a 601 HDS and our EAA technical advisor strongly
recommended we seal our tanks before installing them. We got
Randolph Products #912 sloshing compound from Aircraft Spruce and
sloshed all four tanks. While we never had any fuel leaks in the
four + years we flew the aircraft I am now wondering if it is
necessary with the Zenair tanks as they seem to be very
professionally done.

Stan Challgren
701/?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Fuel Tank Sealer Reply with quote

I researched this very extensively before I used the Randolph 912 compound in my 801 tanks. The only failures I could find where the ones where there was a leak in an existing tank that already had fuel in them. That fuel leaves a residue that is next to impossible to remove for the compound to attach properly to the wall of the tank. There is not one instance where I found a failure in tanks that were treated while in a virgin { prefuel} state and properly prepped. I am sure there is additives out there somewhere they use in gas that might attack the compound though. YMMV..
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com

-- "Graham Kirby" <graham(at)601hd.com> wrote:


Stan,
I've heard of people having problems with sloshing compounds breaking up in
the tank when they are exposed to different fuel additives such as MTBE.
Bits peel of the tank wall and hopefully get caught in the filter before
reaching the carb.

Perhaps if you stick to avgas you will be okay but I suggest you dig through
the various archives before you make a final descision. It's easy enough to
get the sloshing compound into the tank but a bugger to get it out if you
change your mind Smile.

Graham Kirby
601HD

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We previously built a 601 HDS and our EAA technical advisor strongly
recommended we seal our tanks before installing them. We got
Randolph Products #912 sloshing compound from Aircraft Spruce and
sloshed all four tanks. While we never had any fuel leaks in the
four + years we flew the aircraft I am now wondering if it is
necessary with the Zenair tanks as they seem to be very
professionally done.

Stan Challgren
701/?






I researched this very extensively before I used the Randolph 912 compound in my 801 tanks. The only failures I could find where the ones where there was a leak in an existing tank that already had fuel in them. That fuel leaves a residue that is next to impossible to remove for the compound to attach properly to the wall of the tank. There is not one instance where I found a failure in tanks that were treated while in a virgin { prefuel} state and properly prepped. I am sure there is additives out there somewhere they use in gas that might attack the compound though. YMMV..
BenHaas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com

--"GrahamKirby"graham(at)601hd.comwrote:
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Stan,
I'veheardofpeoplehavingproblemswithsloshingcompoundsbreakingupin
thetankwhentheyareexposedtodifferentfueladditivessuchasMTBE.
Bitspeelofthetankwallandhopefullygetcaughtinthefilterbefore
reachingthecarb.

PerhapsifyousticktoavgasyouwillbeokaybutIsuggestyoudigthrough
thevariousarchivesbeforeyoumakeafinaldescision.It'seasyenoughto
getthesloshingcompoundintothetankbutabuggertogetitoutifyou
changeyourmind:-).

GrahamKirby
601HD

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Wepreviouslybuilta601HDSandourEAAtechnicaladvisorstrongly
recommendedwesealourtanksbeforeinstallingthem.Wegot
RandolphProducts#912sloshingcompoundfromAircraftSpruceand
sloshedallfourtanks.Whileweneverhadanyfuelleaksinthe
four+yearsweflewtheaircraftIamnowwonderingifitis
necessarywiththeZenairtanksastheyseemtobevery
professionallydone.

StanChallgren
701/?


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