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R. Hankins

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 185
Location: Grants Pass, Oregon

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: Flight report

It has not been a good winter for flying in my neck of the woods, but I snuck in a nice flight this morning in between storms.  It was one of those post rain, dead calm, puffy cloud mornings.  I played around for an hour or so, in and around the cotton candy.  Here is a link to a short video I shot while flying around one of the cloud columns.  I'll attach a picture as well.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWlwU8PqJjQ



Every once in a while a flight makes me smile like a kid who just got his first kiss.  This was one of those. 



Still smiling.

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: Flight report

> It has not been a good winter for flying in my neck of the woods, but I 

snuck in a nice flight this morning in between storms.  It was one of those 

post rain, dead calm, puffy cloud mornings.

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 Every once in a while a flight makes me smile like a kid who just got his 

 first kiss.  This was one of those.

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		   Roger in Oregon


	


Roger/Gang:



Great clip.  Made me feel right at home.



Thanks for sharing.



john hauck

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

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zeprep251(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:49 am Post subject: Flight report

Roger,

 It's beautiful and fun,but some in the aviation community might call these pictures ("evidence").Got to be careful what you post.

 

   G Aman

 

  

   

 

   PS For the first time in my flying career,I patched a bullet hole in my aircraft wing,one in the bottom ,one in the top

 

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George Alexander

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 245
Location: SW Florida

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:50 am Post subject: Re: Flight report

 	  zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote: 	
		  



* * * * SNIP * * * *  

   G Aman

 

   PS For the first time in my flying career,I patched a bullet hole in my aircraft wing,one in the bottom ,one in the top

 

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Gary:



Do you have any idea when/where your Kolb was a target?

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:05 am Post subject: Flight report

> Do you have any idea when/where your Kolb was a target?

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 George Alexander


	




Morning Gang:



Did you report this to local and Federal authorities?



Any investigation started?



Folks go to jail for shooting airplanes.



I have had several holes in my wings, ailerons, flaps, and fuselage fabric 

over the past 26 years, but they were from FOD (foreign object damage).



That is bad news.



There are nuts cases out there that will shoot at civilian and military 

aircraft.



john hauck

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

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beauford

Joined: 25 Apr 2007
Posts: 127
Location: Brandon, FL

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: Flight report

John:

RE: Bulletholes --

I can recall being based at the Dublin, Ga. airport during the winter months in 

the mid 60's,

when the Feds arrived with two well-used Super Cubs to engage in a little 

moonshine still hunting for two weeks.  They would launch at first light and 

cruise slowly around a target county at 500 feet or so, looking for the smoke 

going straight up from the whiskey mash cooking fires out in the woods.  When the 

breeze came up around 1000 hours, it scattered the smoke and made it hard to find, 

so the "revenuers" would recover to the airport and wait until late afternoon to 

go again.



Both of their airplanes had numerous bullethole patches on them... one of them 

must have had around a dozen.  The pilots laughed about it... but were dead 

serious when they warned us about the dangers of playing around low and slow over 

the piney woods in little airplanes...(most of that part of south central Georgia 

was piney woods). It seems that an airplane was an airplane to the good 'ol boys 

cooking the mash, and they were obviously equal opportunity shooters...



Occasionally think about that when cruising around over the local woods at 55 mph 

in the Kleenex Kolb, but no holes as yet...  I reckon the local Florida boys are 

too busy running smokeless crystal meth labs indoors in trailers to waste time 

fooling around out in the woods with smelly old stills...  Times have changed...



Worth what ye paid fer it... Do not archive.



beauford

FF-076

Brandon, FL

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Did you report this to local and Federal authorities?



Any investigation started?



Folks go to jail for shooting airplanes.



I have had several holes in my wings, ailerons, flaps, and fuselage fabric

over the past 26 years, but they were from FOD (foreign object damage).

zeprep251(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: Flight report

George,

 I know where I'd been but not sure when the holes arrived.They're just behind the thickest part of the airfoil and small,about 1/4"dia.,smooth on the bottom and a little more ragged on the top.I was cleaning the top of the wing while folded when I first noticed it.Thought it was a bird strike until I found the matching hole in the bottom.Have 10 hrs on it since I got here in Dec.Didn't keep the log up to date.That would have been helpful. G.Aman

 

   

 

  

   

 

   

 

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lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Flight report

 	  R. Hankins wrote: 	
		  It has not been a good winter for flying in my neck of the woods, but I snuck in a nice flight this morning in between storms.  It was one of those post rain, dead calm, puffy cloud mornings.  I played around for an hour or so, in and around the cotton candy.  Here is a link to a short video I shot while flying around one of the cloud columns.  I'll attach a picture as well.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWlwU8PqJjQ



Every once in a while a flight makes me smile like a kid who just got his first kiss.  This was one of those. 



Still smiling. 	




You know you're breakin' all kinds of rules, dontcha..... No I won't tell and yes I totally live for views like this too when I go fly (in the rare event we have cumulus clouds around here)... Awsome.....



LS

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lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Flight report

One of the reasons I'm an altitude man and don't like low-and-slow..... I worried the most about getting shot at back when I flew my powered parachute. We flew out in the boonies of TX most of the time and there was no shortage of buck-tooth idiots around out there who'd not think twice about shooting at anything that flew over them.



Even here I try to fly quietly and as high up as I can reasonably go without wasting too much gas, etc.......



LS

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zeprep251(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: Flight report

Lucien,

 The only time I was under 1000' was take off & landing.Back home is a different story.The direct drive Jabiru is loud.Another reason to fly a Rotax engine,so quiet nobody will know you are out and about .

   G.Aman

 

   

 

  

   

 

   

 

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: Flight report

At 02:18 PM 2/8/2010, lucien wrote:

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		  --> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com>



 One of the reasons I'm an altitude man and don't like low-and-slow..... I worried the most about getting shot at back when I flew my powered parachute. We flew out in the boonies of TX most of the time and there was no shortage of buck-tooth idiots around out there who'd not think twice about shooting at anything that flew over them. 	


 Hah!  I've heard lots of PPC pilots find bullet holes in their wings... I guess they're so slow they're an irresistible  target.



 Out in Kansas there was a clown who was shooting at PPC's during the big annual Powrachute fly-in.  Somehow he was caught, and found guilty.  The judge sentenced him to probation... and jail for the week of the fly-in, every year for the next 12 years.



 No word on whether the fly-in pilots deliberately fly past the jail and wave... 



 -Dana



 do not archive

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: Flight report

> Even here I try to fly quietly and as high up as I can reasonably go 

without wasting too much gas, etc.......

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 > LS
	


How do you accomplish that?



John Williamson and I have low leveled from Sherman, TX, to Monument Valley, 

UT, continued low level from there to the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns 

Junction, OR.  If we were shot at during that flight, we never knew it.



Last time either John W or I were shot at, that we know of, is Vietnam 1970 

for me, and I can't remember when John W came home the last time, 1972, 

kinda rings a bell.  Of course, we were both in a wonderful position to 

defend ourselves in VN.



Be careful how you talk about country folks.  There are a bunch of us on the 

Kolb List and we all fly Kolbs.  



john hauck

mkIII

hauck's holler

Titus, Alabama

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lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Flight report

 	  John Hauck wrote: 	
		  

How do you accomplish that?



John Williamson and I have low leveled from Sherman, TX, to Monument Valley, 

UT, continued low level from there to the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns 

Junction, OR.  If we were shot at during that flight, we never knew it.



Last time either John W or I were shot at, that we know of, is Vietnam 1970 

for me, and I can't remember when John W came home the last time, 1972, 

kinda rings a bell.  Of course, we were both in a wonderful position to 

defend ourselves in VN.



Be careful how you talk about country folks.  There are a bunch of us on the 

Kolb List and we all fly Kolbs.  



john hauck

mkIII

hauck's holler

Titus, Alabama 	




It's hard with my 912 and the big ol 70" prop, but I try to get as high as possible before getting near neighborhoods and then back off the power as soon as I can. Sort of an, er, noise abatement procedure for what it's worth.



Don't worry, I'm a 30-year TX back country dude myself so I know whereof I speak.



As for getting shot at, like I said when I flew PPC's with my good friends in TX was when we had the most trouble with people on the ground. Even when you're legal (as we always tried to be) PPC's move so slow that the noise just hangs there in the air. It also can take a while to get to altitude so you have a Rotax scream in one general place above your house for a long time. 

We had to be very careful not to run folks' cows and otherwise disturb people on the ground - altering our route a bunch if necessary to stay away from noise-sensitive areas and folks. 

Even with all that, we often still had messages on our cell phones at the end of the flight back at the field.



We were even not well liked at local airports, even tho we had comms on board and obeyed traffic pattern rules. It still looked like we were "cuttin' up" even tho we were otherwise following the rules.



That was probably my main turnoff of PPC flying, it really took a lot of the fun out of it. I eventually sold my PPC partly for that reason.



Plus I'm basically a 3-axis guy anyway. And it's nice to not have the whole community pi$$ed off at me after a flight. Sure is more fun that way .



LS

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:00 am Post subject: Flight report

> As for getting shot at, like I said when I flew PPC's  

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		   LS

 Titan II SS


	




I think I can speak for most of us Kolb List members in this respect.



We are here to share our experience building and flying Kolbs.



john hauck

mkIII M3-011

1992

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MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Flight report

 	  John Hauck wrote: 	
		  

I think I can speak for most of us Kolb List members in this respect.



We are here to share our experience building and flying Kolbs.



john hauck

mkIII M3-011

1992 	




You're right, I did it again.... sorry about that.....



To make this Kolb related, my FSII never got shot at either tho I flew it as relentlessly legal as I could at all times and stayed away from folks' houses and cows etc. 

When I flew it here I had to make doubly sure I was staying away from things on the ground due to the reduced climb rate of about 300fpm. Usually had to circle a bit outside the pattern to get up there but eventually I made it.



Sure miss that plane. Travis has told me they still build the FS II kits on request; if I win the lottery and do another one I'm going to do the "naked cage" as well.......



LS

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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: Flight report

Sorry I mentioned it guys.I figured the first thing the Fed would do is find something wrong with me or my aircraft or my paperwork.Since I could not give them Lat-Long co-ordinates and the color of the shooters eyes it was useless.It's like trying to teach a pig how to whistle.It wastes your time and it annoys the pig.I try to be considerate of all on the ground,but I may be taking the heat for some idiot who was less caring.

 G.Aman

 

  

   

 

   

 

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: Flight report

Quite possible there have been other reports of  aircraft being fired on in your area of operations.  Even though you can't  pin point the location, the general area of your flying might give them  additional information to work on.

  

 There may be incidents in their files, no matter  old or new, that might lead them to the shooter(s).

  

 Getting shot has some pretty serious  implications.  I would venture to say the shooter was aiming at the center  of mass of your aircraft, about where you were sitting.  Good thing he was  a poor marksman.  Next time he may not miss the pilot.

  

 john hauck

 mkIII

 Titus, Alabama

  

  

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   Sorry I mentioned    it guys.I figured the first thing the Fed would do is find something wrong    with me or my aircraft or my paperwork.Since I could not give them Lat-Long    co-ordinates and the color of the shooters eyes it was useless.It's like    trying to teach a pig how to whistle.It wastes your time and it annoys the    pig.I try to be considerate of all on the ground,but I may be taking the heat    for some idiot who was less caring.

G.Aman



   

    

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