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		taffy8706(at)yahoo.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:16 am    Post subject: rivets vs bolts | 
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				List,
 
  I try to keep my posts to a minimum, but feel this issue is worth 
 giving my two cents worth.
  
  First I am glad Michel or his airplane did not get hurt during his 
 incident.  I do not intend to try and outthink Chris Hientz as I have 
 nothing but the most respect for the man.
  
 I built my 701 as per the plans (scratch built).  After many flight 
 hours and several condition inspections it was found that several rivets 
 which were installed on a support bracket for the center elevator hinge 
 had come loose.  I immediately replaced  two of these A-5 rivets with 
 AN 3 bolts.
 
  Having gone thru this experience with the 701. Now, on the 601 XL 
 which I am  scratch building, I install several (depending on 
 its design and how many rivets used)  AN 3 bolts on any bracket which 
 has external (push/ pull) forces applied to it.   I.E. the support 
 bracket for the Aileron bellcrank.  
   Over-kill ? yes, maybe?  But I know I will enjoy flying a lot more 
 knowing that those parts  which aren't seen on every preflight, are not 
 going to come loose on me.  ( I know that ZAC also sells stainless A-5 
 rivets as used on mounting the rudder pedal/ toe brake hinges)
 
  Here, I expect an outcry of: weight control !!!  I am well aware of 
 it, and thus would rather go without the Big Mac on days which I fly.
   Please take Michel's post seriously, and look for any similar 
 situation on YOUR airplane.-------Fritz
 			
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		allenricks(at)verizon.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: rivets vs bolts | 
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				SACRILEGE!!!
 I had to laugh when I read your post.  Most of us, myself included, would
 do much better in the near AND far term to loose 30 lb's of extra weight 
 ourselves, and keep the extra's on the plane.  It's part of my building 
 plan.
 
 Loose your gross weight to increase your useful load.
 
 Do not archive
 
 Allen 
 Beaverton, OR
  List,
 
  I try to keep my posts to a minimum, but feel this issue is worth 
 giving my two cents worth.
  
  (edit)
 
   Over-kill ? yes, maybe?  But I know I will enjoy flying a lot more 
 knowing that those parts  which aren't seen on every preflight, are not 
 going to come loose on me.  ( I know that ZAC also sells stainless A-5 
 rivets as used on mounting the rudder pedal/ toe brake hinges)
 
  Here, I expect an outcry of: weight control !!!  I am well aware of 
 it, and thus would rather go without the Big Mac on days which I fly.
   Please take Michel's post seriously, and look for any similar 
 situation on YOUR airplane.-------Fritz
 			
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