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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Keep Hingeless ailerons? Reply with quote

In a message dated 4/11/2010 5:12:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ttp44(at)rkymtn.net writes:
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Jeff

I am confused by your post. I think that you are saying that every upgrade
with flex hinges ailerons has been converted to piano hinged ailerons. Is
that correct?
Yes and I think all upgrades should have been done but that is just my opinion.


If so, are you saying that the aileron stick forces are significantly
lighter than with with the flex hinges?


Not significantly lighter but there is a difference due to less resistance.


Also, are you adding the angle on the bottom of the aileron side of the
hinge as was shown in a post on this subject some time ago?


Yes, Zenith supplies the parts and it is a simple upgrade that doesn't require you to reopen the ailerons.

Finally, have you moved the counterbalance ribs inboard a bit to avoid the
interference between the weights and the wing internals (that you mentioned
somewhere), or are you bending the square tube, or what?


Yes the counter balance weights are moved inboard 100mm and that takes care of the problem. If you use the 90 degree method it might fit also but I like the ribs angled and that's how I do them.

Terry



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Keep Hingeless ailerons? Reply with quote

Thanks, Jeff


At 11:20 AM 4/12/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Quote:
In a message dated 4/11/2010 5:12:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ttp44(at)rkymtn.net writes:
Quote:
Jeff

I am confused by your post. I think that you are saying that every upgrade
with flex hinges ailerons has been converted to piano hinged ailerons. Is
that correct?
Yes and I think all upgrades should have been done but that is just my opinion.


If so, are you saying that the aileron stick forces are significantly
lighter than with with the flex hinges?

Not significantly lighter but there is a difference due to less resistance.


Also, are you adding the angle on the bottom of the aileron side of the
hinge as was shown in a post on this subject some time ago?

Yes, Zenith supplies the parts and it is a simple upgrade that doesn't require you to reopen the ailerons.

Finally, have you moved the counterbalance ribs inboard a bit to avoid the
interference between the weights and the wing internals (that you mentioned
somewhere), or are you bending the square tube, or what?

Yes the counter balance weights are moved inboard 100mm and that takes care of the problem. If you use the 90 degree method it might fit also but I like the ribs angled and that's how I do them.

Terry


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? Reply with quote

psm(at)att.net wrote:
Hi Ron,

It is in a box just left of top center of drawing 6ZU-4 dated 25 JAN 2010.
It says "Aileron mass balance also to be installed on ailerons with flex
hinge 6W2-3".

Best regards,

Paul
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Thanks Paul, I read right over that.


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