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Hi everyone!
Today, at 12:25 LT on EHHO, PH-DIY made his first flight.
Conditions were vulcanic ash, 17-22 KN head wind (straight on the runway).
According to the test pilot, the PH-DIY flies beautifully, straight and
balanced, can be flown hands-off, with a very slight tendency for left
(but this can be attributed to the asymmetric load). Only the rudder
seems to be a bit out of balance: there is always some "right rudder"
required. A trim tab would solve this. This needs some investigation.
Stals:
The stall is, clean and dirty, benign. Some buffetting, and then nothing
really happens, he just parachutes down. Absolutely no wing drop. "Like
a Cessna" according to the test pilot.
Stall clean is at approximately 50 Knots, with full flaps it is 42 knots.
Performance:
The pilot was amazed at the performance of this airplane.
Climb was 1500ft/min with 80 knots, with the power to 100% (not 115%).
Cruise was with 4200 rpm and a manifold pressure of 28 good for 120
knots IAS (the airspeed indicator has been calibrated to a maximum
deviation of 1 knots).
Conditions were somewhat turbulent, but performance data was verified in
a sequence of tries (because the pilot had some trouble to believe this
data, he tried it a few times at some distances apart to rule out local
updrafts).
We have had some temperature problems on the early ground runs, but
although the temperatures on the ground still have a tendency to rise,
during flight the temperatures were actually quite low (this was with
the cowl flap 3/4 open, I asked the pilot to leave it at this setting to
keep things simple and comparable).
Quirks:
The PH-DIY needs constant right rudder. If anyone has a good idea what
the cause can be and/or what to do about this, let us know!
In cruise, there is some down trim necessary. Trim setting is not in the
middle of the scale. I believe that this is a common thing, but I have
not yet checked the Europa forum archive for this.
Comments:
After some horror stories of Europa's that flip upside down on the
stall, we are very pleased with the benign stall characteristics of the
PH-DIY. The performance data is better than we expected, and we will of
course repeat the tests. (We have Fred Klein's wing root fairings, a
radically trimmed down and optimized cooling duct, and of course this
"can't be true" 2-blade high twist large diameter prop, so we expected
performance to be on the good side of the scale, but this is more than
we accounted for).
Well, tomorrow we will give the PH-DIY a thorough check, so if weather
cooperates we will saterday fly ourselves (first with an instructor of
course).
Pictures of the first flight can be found on our website at
www.privatepilots.nl/europa/firstflight.htm
Ilona & Frans
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Brian Davies
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Many congratulations Frans,
The plane looks beautiful too. For the records, can you please tell me the
name of the test pilot, the final empty weight and the estimated build
hours.
The minor adjustments needed seem pretty normal to me. Down elevator trim
in the cruise is completely normal.
Regards
Brian Davies,
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rlborger(at)mac.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Ilona & Frans,
Congratulations on the first flight of PH-DIY! Sounds like you folks did an excellent job in the build.
Have a wonderful time learning about your new flying machine and its wondrous capabilities.
Wishing you severe clear,
Bob Borger
On Tuesday, April 20, 2010, at 12:50PM, "Frans Veldman" <frans(at)privatepilots.nl> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi everyone!
Today, at 12:25 LT on EHHO, PH-DIY made his first flight.
Conditions were vulcanic ash, 17-22 KN head wind (straight on the runway).
According to the test pilot, the PH-DIY flies beautifully, straight and
balanced, can be flown hands-off, with a very slight tendency for left
(but this can be attributed to the asymmetric load). Only the rudder
seems to be a bit out of balance: there is always some "right rudder"
required. A trim tab would solve this. This needs some investigation.
Stals:
The stall is, clean and dirty, benign. Some buffetting, and then nothing
really happens, he just parachutes down. Absolutely no wing drop. "Like
a Cessna" according to the test pilot.
Stall clean is at approximately 50 Knots, with full flaps it is 42 knots.
Performance:
The pilot was amazed at the performance of this airplane.
Climb was 1500ft/min with 80 knots, with the power to 100% (not 115%).
Cruise was with 4200 rpm and a manifold pressure of 28 good for 120
knots IAS (the airspeed indicator has been calibrated to a maximum
deviation of 1 knots).
Conditions were somewhat turbulent, but performance data was verified in
a sequence of tries (because the pilot had some trouble to believe this
data, he tried it a few times at some distances apart to rule out local
updrafts).
We have had some temperature problems on the early ground runs, but
although the temperatures on the ground still have a tendency to rise,
during flight the temperatures were actually quite low (this was with
the cowl flap 3/4 open, I asked the pilot to leave it at this setting to
keep things simple and comparable).
Quirks:
The PH-DIY needs constant right rudder. If anyone has a good idea what
the cause can be and/or what to do about this, let us know!
In cruise, there is some down trim necessary. Trim setting is not in the
middle of the scale. I believe that this is a common thing, but I have
not yet checked the Europa forum archive for this.
Comments:
After some horror stories of Europa's that flip upside down on the
stall, we are very pleased with the benign stall characteristics of the
PH-DIY. The performance data is better than we expected, and we will of
course repeat the tests. (We have Fred Klein's wing root fairings, a
radically trimmed down and optimized cooling duct, and of course this
"can't be true" 2-blade high twist large diameter prop, so we expected
performance to be on the good side of the scale, but this is more than
we accounted for).
Well, tomorrow we will give the PH-DIY a thorough check, so if weather
cooperates we will saterday fly ourselves (first with an instructor of
course).
Pictures of the first flight can be found on our website at
www.privatepilots.nl/europa/firstflight.htm
Ilona & Frans
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frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:44 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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On 04/20/2010 08:26 PM, Brian Davies wrote:
| Quote: | Many congratulations Frans,
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Thanks!
| Quote: | The plane looks beautiful too. For the records, can you please tell me the
name of the test pilot, the final empty weight and the estimated build
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Final test pilot was Robbie Sénéghal, the empty weight is 421 Kg's,
build hours unknown (really!).
| Quote: | The minor adjustments needed seem pretty normal to me. Down elevator trim
in the cruise is completely normal.
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OK! So, then only the right rudder thing is something to work on.
Thanks,
Frans
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Ilona & Frans
Welldone - IY looks perfect and we are sure it is!
We wish you many safe and enjoyable flights.
Marke & Raimo from Finland
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zwakie
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: Re: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Frans and Illona: congratulations on the wonderful job the two of you did!
Good to hear all went beyond expectations with good stall-speeds and behavior!
Thanks for giving me a heads-up yesterday, unfortunately I had business-commitments preventing me to witness this wonderful moment. For sure this must be a day you won't ever forget.
I will be there on Saturday for sure, we'll talk further then.
Marcel
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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:33 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Ilona & Frans,
Hearty congratulations...I didn't think a mere volcano would hold you
back!
A beautiful bird indeed...I've admired your attention to detail as
shown in your build album, but your Peace sign rondel takes the cake!
Many happy landings,
Fred
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ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Frans,
Congratulations from New Zealand. Hope to see it out here some day!! Have a
great time flying it as it is 'the second honeymoon' after building.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street'
Fendalton,
Christchurch.
NEW ZEALAND
Ph. 64 3 3515166
Mob 021 0640221
Email ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
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acrojim(at)cfl.rr.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:48 pm Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Frans; The first thing that comes to mind, about having to hold right rudder. Did you shim the engine in the engine mount to the "right" when installing the engine...
Jim Brown
---- Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi everyone!
Today, at 12:25 LT on EHHO, PH-DIY made his first flight.
Conditions were vulcanic ash, 17-22 KN head wind (straight on the runway).
According to the test pilot, the PH-DIY flies beautifully, straight and
balanced, can be flown hands-off, with a very slight tendency for left
(but this can be attributed to the asymmetric load). Only the rudder
seems to be a bit out of balance: there is always some "right rudder"
required. A trim tab would solve this. This needs some investigation.
Stals:
The stall is, clean and dirty, benign. Some buffetting, and then nothing
really happens, he just parachutes down. Absolutely no wing drop. "Like
a Cessna" according to the test pilot.
Stall clean is at approximately 50 Knots, with full flaps it is 42 knots.
Performance:
The pilot was amazed at the performance of this airplane.
Climb was 1500ft/min with 80 knots, with the power to 100% (not 115%).
Cruise was with 4200 rpm and a manifold pressure of 28 good for 120
knots IAS (the airspeed indicator has been calibrated to a maximum
deviation of 1 knots).
Conditions were somewhat turbulent, but performance data was verified in
a sequence of tries (because the pilot had some trouble to believe this
data, he tried it a few times at some distances apart to rule out local
updrafts).
We have had some temperature problems on the early ground runs, but
although the temperatures on the ground still have a tendency to rise,
during flight the temperatures were actually quite low (this was with
the cowl flap 3/4 open, I asked the pilot to leave it at this setting to
keep things simple and comparable).
Quirks:
The PH-DIY needs constant right rudder. If anyone has a good idea what
the cause can be and/or what to do about this, let us know!
In cruise, there is some down trim necessary. Trim setting is not in the
middle of the scale. I believe that this is a common thing, but I have
not yet checked the Europa forum archive for this.
Comments:
After some horror stories of Europa's that flip upside down on the
stall, we are very pleased with the benign stall characteristics of the
PH-DIY. The performance data is better than we expected, and we will of
course repeat the tests. (We have Fred Klein's wing root fairings, a
radically trimmed down and optimized cooling duct, and of course this
"can't be true" 2-blade high twist large diameter prop, so we expected
performance to be on the good side of the scale, but this is more than
we accounted for).
Well, tomorrow we will give the PH-DIY a thorough check, so if weather
cooperates we will saterday fly ourselves (first with an instructor of
course).
Pictures of the first flight can be found on our website at
www.privatepilots.nl/europa/firstflight.htm
Ilona & Frans
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acrojim(at)cfl.rr.com
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Frans; The first thing that comes to mind, about having to hold right rudder. Did you shim the engine in the engine mount to the "right" when installing the engine...
Jim Brown
---- Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi everyone!
Today, at 12:25 LT on EHHO, PH-DIY made his first flight.
Conditions were vulcanic ash, 17-22 KN head wind (straight on the runway).
According to the test pilot, the PH-DIY flies beautifully, straight and
balanced, can be flown hands-off, with a very slight tendency for left
(but this can be attributed to the asymmetric load). Only the rudder
seems to be a bit out of balance: there is always some "right rudder"
required. A trim tab would solve this. This needs some investigation.
Stals:
The stall is, clean and dirty, benign. Some buffetting, and then nothing
really happens, he just parachutes down. Absolutely no wing drop. "Like
a Cessna" according to the test pilot.
Stall clean is at approximately 50 Knots, with full flaps it is 42 knots.
Performance:
The pilot was amazed at the performance of this airplane.
Climb was 1500ft/min with 80 knots, with the power to 100% (not 115%).
Cruise was with 4200 rpm and a manifold pressure of 28 good for 120
knots IAS (the airspeed indicator has been calibrated to a maximum
deviation of 1 knots).
Conditions were somewhat turbulent, but performance data was verified in
a sequence of tries (because the pilot had some trouble to believe this
data, he tried it a few times at some distances apart to rule out local
updrafts).
We have had some temperature problems on the early ground runs, but
although the temperatures on the ground still have a tendency to rise,
during flight the temperatures were actually quite low (this was with
the cowl flap 3/4 open, I asked the pilot to leave it at this setting to
keep things simple and comparable).
Quirks:
The PH-DIY needs constant right rudder. If anyone has a good idea what
the cause can be and/or what to do about this, let us know!
In cruise, there is some down trim necessary. Trim setting is not in the
middle of the scale. I believe that this is a common thing, but I have
not yet checked the Europa forum archive for this.
Comments:
After some horror stories of Europa's that flip upside down on the
stall, we are very pleased with the benign stall characteristics of the
PH-DIY. The performance data is better than we expected, and we will of
course repeat the tests. (We have Fred Klein's wing root fairings, a
radically trimmed down and optimized cooling duct, and of course this
"can't be true" 2-blade high twist large diameter prop, so we expected
performance to be on the good side of the scale, but this is more than
we accounted for).
Well, tomorrow we will give the PH-DIY a thorough check, so if weather
cooperates we will saterday fly ourselves (first with an instructor of
course).
Pictures of the first flight can be found on our website at
www.privatepilots.nl/europa/firstflight.htm
Ilona & Frans
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Frans
You built a good straight airplane. Well done. Don't worry about the quirks, they will be resolved I'm sure. Just take it step by step and don't rush it.
I'm delighted with your news
Graham
From: Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
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Subject: PH-DIY first flight!
Hi everyone!
Today, at 12:25 LT on EHHO, PH-DIY made his first flight.
Conditions were vulcanic ash, 17-22 KN head wind (straight on the runway).
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Franz-
Beautiful airplane! Congratulations from Lynne and I. Hopefully I will have similar news in a couple of months.
Jim Puglise, Punta Gorda, FL
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Congratulations Frans
Anyone completing a Europa deserves a medal in my opinion.
Great word from down under.
JR (Bob) Gowing in Oz 327
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:06 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Frans, Ilona,
Hearty congratulations on the first flight of your wonderful PH-DIY. After all your days/nights of working now the good life finally starts!
Enjoy it, have fun and come soon to show her at EHTE.
Happy landings!
Jack van Heeswijk, PH-LOB
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Onderwerp: PH-DIY first flight!
Hi everyone!
Today, at 12:25 LT on EHHO, PH-DIY made his first flight.
Conditions were vulcanic ash, 17-22 KN head wind (straight on the runway).
According to the test pilot, the PH-DIY flies beautifully, straight and
balanced, can be flown hands-off, with a very slight tendency for left
(but this can be attributed to the asymmetric load). Only the rudder
seems to be a bit out of balance: there is always some "right rudder"
required. A trim tab would solve this. This needs some investigation.
Stals:
The stall is, clean and dirty, benign. Some buffetting, and then nothing
really happens, he just parachutes down. Absolutely no wing drop. "Like
a Cessna" according to the test pilot.
Stall clean is at approximately 50 Knots, with full flaps it is 42 knots.
Performance:
The pilot was amazed at the performance of this airplane.
Climb was 1500ft/min with 80 knots, with the power to 100% (not 115%).
Cruise was with 4200 rpm and a manifold pressure of 28 good for 120
knots IAS (the airspeed indicator has been calibrated to a maximum
deviation of 1 knots).
Conditions were somewhat turbulent, but performance data was verified in
a sequence of tries (because the pilot had some trouble to believe this
data, he tried it a few times at some distances apart to rule out local
updrafts).
We have had some temperature problems on the early ground runs, but
although the temperatures on the ground still have a tendency to rise,
during flight the temperatures were actually quite low (this was with
the cowl flap 3/4 open, I asked the pilot to leave it at this setting to
keep things simple and comparable).
Quirks:
The PH-DIY needs constant right rudder. If anyone has a good idea what
the cause can be and/or what to do about this, let us know!
In cruise, there is some down trim necessary. Trim setting is not in the
middle of the scale. I believe that this is a common thing, but I have
not yet checked the Europa forum archive for this.
Comments:
After some horror stories of Europa's that flip upside down on the
stall, we are very pleased with the benign stall characteristics of the
PH-DIY. The performance data is better than we expected, and we will of
course repeat the tests. (We have Fred Klein's wing root fairings, a
radically trimmed down and optimized cooling duct, and of course this
"can't be true" 2-blade high twist large diameter prop, so we expected
performance to be on the good side of the scale, but this is more than
we accounted for).
Well, tomorrow we will give the PH-DIY a thorough check, so if weather
cooperates we will saterday fly ourselves (first with an instructor of
course).
Pictures of the first flight can be found on our website at
www.privatepilots.nl/europa/firstflight.htm
Ilona & Frans
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Hi! Frans and Iona.
Well done and be sure who is in command at all times !!
Best regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG (nearly complete Tru Track Mod 10507 Retro Fit is a
complete Bastard to do !)So hoping it works to satisfaction.
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gregoryf.flyboy(at)comcas
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:03 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Congratulations Frans and Ilona!
Enjoy the spoils of all your hard labor. Now even the sky is not the limit!
-Greg Fuchs A050
Hi everyone!
Today, at 12:25 LT on EHHO, PH-DIY made his first flight.
Ilona & Frans
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:53 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Congratulations...Im very jealous
Will
JR Gowing wrote: [quote] [quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "JR Gowing" <jrgowing(at)bigpond.net.au> (jrgowing(at)bigpond.net.au) Congratulations Frans Anyone completing a Europa deserves a medal in my opinion. Great word from down under. JR (Bob) Gowing in Oz 327 ---
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Hello Frans and Ilona,
More congratulations from Australia. I didn't think you would let a little
thing like a volcano get in the way of your first flight! - where there's a
will there's a way! Must be a great feeling.
Cheers to you both
Kingsley
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Jeff(at)rmmm.net
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Frans,As you know... you have joined a select few that get to experience the wonders of accomplishment and at the same time, the joys of flight. It's no wonder we do this. As you become comfortable with her she will smile back and remind you of what it took to complete her. Then you experience the joy all over again every time you fly her. Just yesterday I couldn't bare to bring her down so I kept taking back off. At the end of the morning I told my wife that much fun should be against the law.
Enjoy it and by the way... you are a valuable asset to this forum.
Congratulations!!
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:51 AM, William Daniell wrote:
[quote] Congratulations...Im very jealous
Will
JR Gowing wrote: [quote] [quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "JR Gowing" <jrgowing(at)bigpond.net.au> (jrgowing(at)bigpond.net.au) Congratulations Frans Anyone completing a Europa deserves a medal in my opinion. Great word from down under. JR (Bob) Gowing in Oz 327 ---
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kheindl(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:42 am Post subject: PH-DIY first flight! |
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Frans,
Congratulations to both of you and the test pilot. You will have a lot of fun with that Europa.
A cruise of 120 knots at just over 50% power is pretty phenominal. I doubt that anyone can match that. It should give an excellent range as well. Your pioneering mods to the cooling air flow, the Klein wing root fairings, and the 2-bladed Woodcomp are all contributing to that.
Karl
| Quote: | Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:50:36 +0200
From: frans(at)privatepilots.nl
Subject: PH-DIY first flight!
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Hi everyone!
Today, at 12:25 LT on EHHO, PH-DIY made his first flight.
Conditions were vulcanic ash, 17-22 KN head wind (straight on the runway).
According to the test pilot, the PH-DIY flies beautifully, straight and
balanced, can be flown hands-off, with a very slight tendency for left
(but this can be attributed to the asymmetric load). Only the rudder
seems to be a bit out of balance: there is always some "right rudder"
required. A trim tab would solve this. This needs some investigation.
Stals:
The stall is, clean and dirty, benign. Some buffetting, and then nothing
really happens, he just parachutes down. Absolutely no wing drop. "Like
a Cessna" according to the test pilot.
Stall clean is at approximately 50 Knots, with full flaps it is 42 knots.
Performance:
The pilot was amazed at the performance of this airplane.
Climb was 1500ft/min with 80 knots, with the power to 100% (not 115%).
Cruise was with 4200 rpm and a manifold pressure of 28 good for 120
knots IAS (the airspeed indicator has been calibrated to a maximum
deviation of 1 knots).
Conditions were somewhat turbulent, but performance data was verified in
a sequence of tries (because the pilot had some trouble to believe this
data, he tried it a few times at some distances apart to rule out local
updrafts).
We have had some temperature problems on the early ground runs, but
although the temperatures on the ground still have a tendency to rise,
during flight the temperatures were actually quite low (this was with
the cowl flap 3/4 open, I asked the pilot to leave it at this setting to
keep things simple and comparable).
Quirks:
The PH-DIY needs constant right rudder. If anyone has a good idea what
the cause can be and/or what to do about this, let us know!
In cruise, there is some down trim necessary. Trim setting is not in the
middle of the scale. I believe that this is a common thing, but I have
not yet checked the Europa forum archive for this.
Comments:
After some horror stories of Europa's that flip upside down on the
stall, we are very pleased with the benign stall characteristics of the
PH-DIY. The performance data is better than we expected, and we will of
course repeat the tests. (We have Fred Klein's wing root fairings, a
radically trimmed down and optimized cooling duct, and of course this
"can't be true" 2-blade high twist large diameter prop, so we expected
performance to be on the good side of the scale, but this is more than
we accounted for).
Well, tomorrow we will give the PH-DIY a thorough check, so if weather
cooperates we will saterday fly ourselves (first with an instructor of
course).
Pictures of the first flight can be found on our website at
www.privatepilots.nl/europa/firstflight.htm
Ilona & Frans
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