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mau11(at)free.fr
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Hi all
I have MAC pitch trim since 1994, my installation included:
Rocker switch, grip switchs, Needle indicator, relay and speedcontrol.
Does anyone have old wiring drawing, because I rebuildt the panel and don't have this electric scheme.
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
26-05-2010
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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Michel,
I think I have it and I could also find it!
Would you please give me a fax number where to send it?
Terveisin, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs
37500 Lempäälä
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
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From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:34 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Old trim wiring
Hi all
I have MAC pitch trim since 1994, my installation included:
Rocker switch, grip switchs, Needle indicator, relay and speedcontrol.
Does anyone have old wiring drawing, because I rebuildt the panel and don't have this electric scheme.
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
26-05-2010
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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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| Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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Hi! The relay is superseded by MkII contact them for the replacement and they will provide you with the circuit diagram.
REGARDS
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MK1 Rotax 914.
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Subject: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Hi all
I have MAC pitch trim since 1994, my installation included:
Rocker switch, grip switchs, Needle indicator, relay and speedcontrol.
Does anyone have old wiring drawing, because I rebuildt the panel and don't have this electric scheme.
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
26-05-2010
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mau11(at)free.fr
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| Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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Hi Raimo,
Thanks for your assistance I have only a mail no fax sorry, is it possible to scan and send Pdf document?
Good day
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 26-05-2010 21:44:38
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com
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Sujet ： Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Michel,
I think I have it and I could also find it!
Would you please give me a fax number where to send it?
Terveisin, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs
37500 Lempäälä
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
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From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:34 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Hi all
I have MAC pitch trim since 1994, my installation included:
Rocker switch, grip switchs, Needle indicator, relay and speedcontrol.
Does anyone have old wiring drawing, because I rebuildt the panel and don't have this electric scheme.
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
26-05-2010
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rparigoris
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| Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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"I have only a mail no fax sorry, is it possible to scan and send Pdf document?"Just a quick note, we don't have a scanner (at) hangar, however we have a camera. Taking a picture of a document is easy, good enough resolution in most cases. Saves hassle of bringing home and scan, then remembering to bring document to hangar and put it away.Ron Parigoris [quote][b]
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mau11(at)free.fr
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| Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:56 pm Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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thanks Ron.
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： rparigor
Date/heure ： 27-05-2010 06:54:25
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"I have only a mail no fax sorry, is it possible to scan and send Pdf document?"
Just a quick note, we don't have a scanner (at) hangar, however we have a camera. Taking a picture of a document is easy, good enough resolution in most cases. Saves hassle of bringing home and scan, then remembering to bring document to hangar and put it away.
Ron Parigoris
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rparigoris
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| Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: Old trim wiring |
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Hi Michel
I don't know how close MAC is to Ray Allen, but have a look at:
http://www.rayallencompany.com/RACinfo/downloadpg.html
especially the first on list:
http://www.rayallencompany.com/RACmedia/instructionsT2andT3.pdf
They also have info on stick switches and relay decks (do it yourself too).
Remember it is best if you short both motor input wires together when you take off power (acts as a generator, by shorting it acts like a brake!).
Also you can check out Aeroelectric schematic:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/trim.pdf
You can more easily follow dynamic braking here:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/flaps.pdf
If this wasn't more information than you wanted to know, hopeful this will push you over the edge:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Trim_System_Failures.pdf
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/macservo/macservo.html
Ron Parigoris
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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Hi Michel
I hate scannning but can do it or take a photo and send it to you.
Unfortunately I noticed my drawings are RAC (Ray Allen C) no MAC.
Please confirm if RAC is ok for you.
Wishes, Raimo
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:57 AM
To: europa-list (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Old trim wiring
Hi Raimo,
Thanks for your assistance I have only a mail no fax sorry, is it possible to scan and send Pdf document?
Good day
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 26-05-2010 21:44:38
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Cc ：
Sujet ： Re: Old trim wiring
Michel,
I think I have it and I could also find it!
Would you please give me a fax number where to send it?
Terveisin, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs
37500 Lempäälä
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
[img]cid:1FC153F164614A8FA0A5B4E9A51376CC(at)Asus[/img]
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:34 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Old trim wiring
Hi all
I have MAC pitch trim since 1994, my installation included:
Rocker switch, grip switchs, Needle indicator, relay and speedcontrol.
Does anyone have old wiring drawing, because I rebuildt the panel and don't have this electric scheme.
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
26-05-2010
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mau11(at)free.fr
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:11 am Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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The problem I have is the old needle indicator, relay, rocker, and stick grip wiring together.
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 27-05-2010 11:29:39
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com
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Sujet ： Re: Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Hi Michel
I hate scannning but can do it or take a photo and send it to you.
Unfortunately I noticed my drawings are RAC (Ray Allen C) no MAC.
Please confirm if RAC is ok for you.
Wishes, Raimo
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:57 AM
To: europa-list (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Hi Raimo,
Thanks for your assistance I have only a mail no fax sorry, is it possible to scan and send Pdf document?
Good day
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 26-05-2010 21:44:38
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Cc ：
Sujet ： Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Michel,
I think I have it and I could also find it!
Would you please give me a fax number where to send it?
Terveisin, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs
37500 Lempäälä
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
[img]cid:__0(at)Foxmail.net[/img]
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:34 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Hi all
I have MAC pitch trim since 1994, my installation included:
Rocker switch, grip switchs, Needle indicator, relay and speedcontrol.
Does anyone have old wiring drawing, because I rebuildt the panel and don't have this electric scheme.
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
26-05-2010
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:26 am Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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I am sure my drawing consists all those items including the needle indicator. You will get it.
R
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:10 PM
To: europa-list (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Old trim wiring
The problem I have is the old needle indicator, relay, rocker, and stick grip wiring together.
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 27-05-2010 11:29:39
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Cc ：
Sujet ： Re: Re: Old trim wiring
Hi Michel
I hate scannning but can do it or take a photo and send it to you.
Unfortunately I noticed my drawings are RAC (Ray Allen C) no MAC.
Please confirm if RAC is ok for you.
Wishes, Raimo
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:57 AM
To: europa-list (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Old trim wiring
Hi Raimo,
Thanks for your assistance I have only a mail no fax sorry, is it possible to scan and send Pdf document?
Good day
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 26-05-2010 21:44:38
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Cc ：
Sujet ： Re: Old trim wiring
Michel,
I think I have it and I could also find it!
Would you please give me a fax number where to send it?
Terveisin, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs
37500 Lempäälä
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
[img]cid:FE937A8103D041798196B6410C3AF2FE(at)Asus[/img]
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:34 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Old trim wiring
Hi all
I have MAC pitch trim since 1994, my installation included:
Rocker switch, grip switchs, Needle indicator, relay and speedcontrol.
Does anyone have old wiring drawing, because I rebuildt the panel and don't have this electric scheme.
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
26-05-2010
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mau11(at)free.fr
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:51 am Post subject: Old trim wiring |
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Yes thanks Raimo
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 27-05-2010 12:31:29
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com
Cc ：
Sujet ： Re: Re: Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
I am sure my drawing consists all those items including the needle indicator. You will get it.
R
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:10 PM
To: europa-list (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
The problem I have is the old needle indicator, relay, rocker, and stick grip wiring together.
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 27-05-2010 11:29:39
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Cc ：
Sujet ： Re: Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Hi Michel
I hate scannning but can do it or take a photo and send it to you.
Unfortunately I noticed my drawings are RAC (Ray Allen C) no MAC.
Please confirm if RAC is ok for you.
Wishes, Raimo
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:57 AM
To: europa-list (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Hi Raimo,
Thanks for your assistance I have only a mail no fax sorry, is it possible to scan and send Pdf document?
Good day
27-05-2010
Michel AUVRAY
De ： Raimo Toivio
Date/heure ： 26-05-2010 21:44:38
A ： europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Cc ：
Sujet ： Re: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Michel,
I think I have it and I could also find it!
Would you please give me a fax number where to send it?
Terveisin, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs
37500 Lempäälä
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
[img]cid:__0(at)Foxmail.net[/img]
From: mau11 (mau11(at)free.fr)
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:34 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Europa-List: Old trim wiring
Hi all
I have MAC pitch trim since 1994, my installation included:
Rocker switch, grip switchs, Needle indicator, relay and speedcontrol.
Does anyone have old wiring drawing, because I rebuildt the panel and don't have this electric scheme.
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
26-05-2010
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: Re: Old trim wiring |
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Michel,
MAC is now Ray Allen. Sons took over the business from their father. Their website has install documents. This link includes speed control and relay. http://www.rayallencompany.com/RACmedia/instructionsSPD.pdf
Hope this helps.
Jim & Heather
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