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		captseth
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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 Anyone know what factory rebuilts are running these days? Any problems getting parts? Thanks...
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		cschuerm(at)cox.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Anyone know what factory (GSO-480) rebuilts are running these days?
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 Sure hope you're joking or you're going to be in for a terrible
 disapointment....
 Hit the junk yards and try to find parts that are less worn out than
 what you've got.....
 cs
 
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		captseth
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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 So you're saying that if you pop a jug or trash a gearbox lycoming doesn't stock parts? Not entirely unexpected, but I am trying to determine the viability of this powerplant. Of course, if you have to overhaul the thing and you can't get a piston pin that you need, all is for naught.
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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 captseth wrote:
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		avtec2(at)bellsouth.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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 $22,000.00 in ft lauderdale.includes mags harnesses
 Air Mark
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		bowing74(at)earthlink.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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 Se habla Espaniol???
 Guermo
 
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		captseth
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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  	  | bowing74(at)earthlink.net wrote: | 	 		  Se habla Espaniol???
 Guermo | 	  
 Un Pocito.
 Anyway, thanks guys, that was helpful.
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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 You may need more that pocito.
 bilbo
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		allen_reed2(at)hotmail.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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 hey gang,,I saw a pair of gso 480'S,i think I can find the add,will be right
 back with ya!! Big AL
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 Reply-To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul
 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:18:56 -0600
 captseth wrote:
 > So you're saying that if you pop a jug or trash a gearbox lycoming
 doesn't stock parts?
 Unfortunatly, that's the case. Lycoming no longer supports many of the
 oldest engines including the radials and GO series. There are a few
 shops left that will overhaul them, but there are fewer every day. We
 used to have several very good shops in the tulsa area that specialized
 in geared lycs, but they've all dropped those over the last 10 years or
 so due to lack of parts. Once in a while you can find some NOS parts,
 but mostly you're just looking at "is it better than what I've got"
 these days. Central Cylinder still does quite a bit of work on those
 engines and probably has more parts than anyone. You might give George
 Czarneki a call and see what they can do. Bottom line is that you're
 not going to get a "new limits" quality overhaul or many new parts.
 bummer - I think that if Lyc had kept progressing on the GSO-480 that it
 could have been the engine of choice for many modern designs too....
 Chris
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		YOURTCFG(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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 In a message dated 1/11/2006 2:19:27 PM Central Standard Time,
 cschuerm(at)cox.net writes:
 There are a few
 shops left that will overhaul them, but there are fewer every day
 Actually, there are several good shops that still do Geared engiens (see FGN
 last year). Parts are not yet a problem (except for the oldiest GO 435). I
 have also found that OH prices are reasonable. Several shops still do OH of
 geared engiens even though they dont advertize. Moe Mills ah
 
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		moe(at)rosspistons.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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				Commander drivers,
 Starman Bros. is having an auction in Hastings, FL soon.  Earl Aircraft
 Salvage is throwing in the towel, and I think that they had a lot of 480
 stuff and Commander parts.  Starman Bros. has a web sight
 www.starmanauctions.com.  If anyone goes, please let me know, as there is
 one small item that I would like to get.
 
 Regards,
 
 Moe
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 680F(p)
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		Ben-PA
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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				I asked the guys in the shop this morning if they do GO-480 overhauls and they laughed. Apparently I was standing on what used to be the assembly line where they did 8 each week during the war.
 The shop is Columbia Aircraft Services in Bloomsburg, Pa. 17815.  570-784-3070. Airport N13.
 They said Scott Smith (the boss) still buys the scarcer parts wherever he can find them.
 Tell him Ben the Kitfox guy told you to call.
 HTH
 Good luck!
 Ben
 
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		captseth
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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				Wow, great - all good stuff. I'll keep the info handy.
 
 I want to use the airplane in LIMITED commercial service and want to be able to support it. My employer has a similar problem with a discontinued aircraft/engine, and they resorted to cannabilization - which is not going to last more than another couple of months on that airplane. So, I don't want to make the same mistake they did: not having a plan "b."
 
 It sounds like there are enough parts out there to keep them going, especially if one's original equipment remains servicable through the overhaul.
 
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		TILLMAN333(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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				Hi.  I am part of the staff for Gary Tillman, who was killed in the Cessna 
 195 crash the week of Christmas.  We want to keep his email address active for 
 business reasons because a lot of clients have the address...however Gary seems 
 to get a lot of emails from the commander chat list.  How do we get his email 
 address removed from the list?
 
 Thanks,
 Melissa 
 
 Av. Ins. Brokers of NA
 http://www.flysafeinsurance.com/
 800-228-4283
 706-291-4077 office
 706-238-1143 cell
 706-232-3081 fax
 
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		Skyhawkc-172
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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				Anyone know anything regarding Commander with all the signatures on the nose (at):
 
 twincommanderflyer.com
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  Hi. I am part of the staff for Gary Tillman, who was killed in the Cessna 
  195 crash the week of Christmas. We want to keep his email address active for 
  business reasons because a lot of clients have the address...however Gary seems 
  to get a lot of emails from the commander chat list. How do we get his email 
  address removed from the list? 
  
  Thanks, 
  Melissa 
  
  Av. Ins. Brokers of NA 
  http://www.flysafeinsurance.com/ 
  800-228-4283 
  706-291-4077 office 
  706-238-1143 cell 
  706-232-3081 fax 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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 Anyone know anything regardingCommander with all the signatures on the nose (at):
 
 twincommanderflyer.com
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 From: TILLMAN333(at)aol.com 
 
  -- Commander-List message posted by: TILLMAN333(at)aol.com 
  
  Hi. I am part of the staff for Gary Tillman, who was killed in the Cessna 
  195 crash the week of Christmas. We want to keep his email address active for 
  business reasons because a lot of clients have the address...however Gary seems 
  to get a lot of emails from the commander chat list. How do we get his email 
  address removed from the list? 
  
  Thanks, 
  Melissa 
  
  Av. Ins. Brokers of NA 
  http://www.flysafeinsurance.com/ 
  800-228-4283 
  706-291-4077 office 
  706-238-1143 cell 
  706-232-3081 fax 
  
  
  
  
  mmander-List Email Forum -
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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				In a message dated 1/14/2006 11:11:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
 skyhawkC-172(at)comcast.net writes:
 
 Anyone  know anything regarding Commander with all the signatures on the nose 
  (at):
 Yep, that is N222JS before the paint job.  I used to live in Idaho and  was 
 GM of Avid Aircraft, the kit mfg.  The signatures are from friends and  former 
 employees.  They all wrote a little note.  They had  a hangar and nose signing 
 party!!  
     "Triple 2 Jim & Sue" was a derelict bought  from Harry Merritt in FL.  I 
 paid 15K and flew it home.  The majority  of the restoration was done in a 
 friends hangar in Idaho.  
     I was finished with most of the work and heading to  the paint shop.  The 
 airplane had been sitting in the hangar for a couple  weeks and when I came 
 to pick it up, it had a bright pink nose with lots of  graffiti (all cool 
 stuff, from great people)  I was humbled and amused as I  read all thier work.  It 
 brought back many fond memories.  I am  blessed to have such great friends  jb
 
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		Skyhawkc-172
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: GSO-480 Overhaul | 
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				Certainly a distinctive looking bird.  The Pink nose with all the signatures is really some nice nose art...: )
 
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  In a message dated 1/14/2006 11:11:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
  skyhawkC-172(at)comcast.net writes: 
  
  Anyone know anything regarding Commander with all the signatures on the nose 
  (at): 
  
  
  Yep, that is N222JS before the paint job. I used to live in Idaho and was 
  GM of Avid Aircraft, the kit mfg. The signatures are from friends and former 
  employees. They all wrote a little note. They had a hangar and nose signing 
  party!! 
  "Triple 2 Jim & Sue" was a derelict bought from Harry Merritt in FL. I 
  paid 15K and flew it home. The majority of the restoration was done in a 
  friends hangar in Idaho. 
  I was finished with most of the work and heading to the paint shop. The 
  airplane had been sitting in the hangar for a couple weeks and when I came 
  to pick it up, it had a bright pink nose with lots of graffiti (all cool 
  stuff, from great people) I was humbled and amused as I read all thier work. 
  It 
  brought back many fond memories. I am blessed to have such great friends jb 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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 Certainly a distinctive looking bird. The Pink nose with all the signatures is really some nice nose art...: )
 
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 From: YOURTCFG(at)aol.com 
 
  -- Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG(at)aol.com 
  
  
  In a message dated 1/14/2006 11:11:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
  skyhawkC-172(at)comcast.net writes: 
  
  Anyone know anything regarding Commander with all the signatures on the nose 
  (at): 
  
  
  Yep, that is N222JS before the paint job. I used to live in Idaho and was 
  GM of Avid Aircraft, the kit mfg. The signatures are from friends and former 
  employees. They all wrote a little note. They had a hangar and nose signing 
  party!! 
  "Triple 2 Jim  Sue" was a derelict bought from Harry Merritt in FL. I 
  paid 15K and flew it home. The majority of the restoration was done in a 
  friends hangar in Idaho. 
  I was finished wi
  th most of the work and heading to the paint shop. The 
  airplane had been sitting in the hangar for a couple weeks and when I came 
  to pick it up, it had a bright pink nose with lots of graffiti (all cool 
  stuff, from great people) I was humbled and amused as I read all thier work. 
  It 
  brought back many fond memories. I am blessed to have such great friends jb 
  
  
  
  
  bution Web Site -
 
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