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Deems Davis



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Bucking Bar follow-up Reply with quote

Well after whining to everybody yesterday about my impossible to buck
rivets, it finally occurred to me that I might be within an easy reach
out of this pickle. There's enough material mass in the seldom used
Elevator bucking bar to make another 1/2 dozen bucking bars, the problem
was I didn't have the right tools to cut or machine the part ------ or
did I ? --- I remembered a seldom used highspeed grinder/cutoff wheel
tool and I wondered whether it would cut the massive bucking bar. Well a
little test proved that it would/could and 20 minutes later I had 2 new
bucking bars!!!!
Another 30 minutes per side on the Fuse and the impossible rivets (and
the nutplates), were completely subdued and driven into near perfect
position ! (well close enough, and didn't have to resort to pops).

I've attached a pic (reduced size)


Moral to the story: Whining leads to inspiration!!

Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
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Rick S.



Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Bucking Bar follow-up Reply with quote

Not to rain on your parade Deems,

I had great success by modifying the emmpenage bucking bar as per Van's instructions and have completed all the rivets on the fuse using it. I will admit hunting for the right bar was a long process until I remembered in the plans it said to use this bar to rivet the fuselage....hmmmm, WORKED!! I did use a cardboard shim on one side so it would lay correctly in the forward longeron channels without worrying if I was correctly postioned on those rivets.

Don't think I didn't stare at my bucking bars with the idea of hacking them up though...I was very close to doing the same thing'

PS-If you want a taste of what it was like to build an RV before prepunched kits came out, do the rear seat backs. I have a little experience in layout and drilling and forgot how nice the prepuched kits are...It all comes racing back doing the rear seats. Maybe 100 holes to layout and drill plus the metal angle fabrication...4 hours time. Imagine if the entire kit was like that!

My hats off to the pioneers who laid out, drilled and fabricated their RV's......They are the "real" builders, I humbly accept the title of assembler. Just my .02 worth.

Rick S.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Bucking Bar follow-up Reply with quote

In a message dated 4/23/06 6:46:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ricksked(at)earthlink.net writes:
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They are the "real" builders,


Rick...my concept of a "real builder" is someone that takes a set of blue prints and then creates a plane or draws up the plane's blues themselves then builds off of their plans...whether the kit is pre punched or in some other way it is for the most part pre-engineered, it certainly may entail a few more steps but they're probably in a similar group...and all are builders just some will take a few more months figuring things out...now going from fuzzy lines to flight may take a few more years...IMHO...all are builders, though.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Bucking Bar follow-up Reply with quote

I totally agree, It seemed like such a chore to build the seats vs. the other sub assemblies, not difficult but required much more attention to detail. I had no intentions of slighting anyones skills or craftsmanship who is building an RV-10, I just appreciate the fact that this is fun to "build" but not might be as much fun if you had to break out the fan spacer and ruler for every hole.
 
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