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				 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				Greetings... just wondering if anyone has any tips on getting right angle fittings both 
 tight, *and* pointing in the right direction?
 
 On my oil cooler, I need one fitting pointing straight ahead, and the other straight aft.
 Naturally, when these [non-swivelling] fittings are tightened up properly, they don't 
 point where I want them to.  As it turns out, each one would need to be backed off about 
 30 degrees, and then it would then seep oil. Fuel Lube isn't sufficient, perhaps Permatex 
 Form-a-Gasket, or something else? Any other ideas? Thanks!
 
 -- 
 Regards,  J.
 
 Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
 restoring the Johnston Special
 http://cleco.ca
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				I use Pro-Seal on all pipe threads that carry fuel,oil or hydraulic fluid. The threads are not standard on npt as far as where they begin relative to the angle of the fitting. If both fittings are the same, try swapping them and see where they tighten up. In some cases a pipe tap can be used to cut the threads a little deeper but be very careful as you can go to deep and then the fitting will not tighten up at all.
 BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) 
 CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
 101 Caroline Circle
 Hurricane, WV 25526
 www.carbonfibercomposites.net
 304-562-6800 home
 304-395-4932 cell
 
 How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   From: j. davis <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca>
  Subject: positioning right angle AN fittings
  To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
  Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:19 PM
  
  davis" <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca>
  
  Greetings... just wondering if anyone has any tips on
  getting right angle fittings both tight, *and* pointing in
  the right direction?
  
  On my oil cooler, I need one fitting pointing straight
  ahead, and the other straight aft.
  Naturally, when these [non-swivelling] fittings are
  tightened up properly, they don't point where I want them
  to.  As it turns out, each one would need to be backed
  off about 30 degrees, and then it would then seep oil. Fuel
  Lube isn't sufficient, perhaps Permatex Form-a-Gasket, or
  something else? Any other ideas? Thanks!
  
  -- Regards,  J.
  
  Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
  restoring the Johnston Special
  http://cleco.ca
  
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  I bought some powdered water, but I don't know what to
  add to it.
             
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				I find this product very effective on pipe thread and gaskets:
 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/titesealit.php
 
 One can is good for a dozen airplanes.
 
 Carl Froehlich
 RV-8A (550 hrs)
 RV-10 (systems install)
 
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				Best way to handle this is to run the male thread of the fitting into the  appropriate pipe thread die.  These are available at the hardware  store.  Screw it in by hand until it is tight, then just a little  more.  Clean the threads and try it.  If you use a tap on the female  threads, the chips are going to fall into the oil cooler-----------
   
  Stewart Willoughby
  6,finishing
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				On 08/16/2010 04:12 AM, StooDDS(at)aol.com wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Best way to handle this is to run the male thread of the fitting into
  the appropriate pipe thread die. These are available at the hardware
  store. Screw it in by hand until it is tight, then just a little more.
  Clean the threads and try it. If you use a tap on the female threads,
  the chips are going to fall into the oil cooler-----------
  Stewart Willoughby
  6,finishing
 
 Hmmm, not sure I understand this. These are tapered pipe fittings, are they not? When 
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 tight, there are still exposed threads. Adding a few more threads with a die wouldn't 
 change anything, would it?
 
 -- 
 Regards,  J.
 
 Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
 restoring the Johnston Special
 http://cleco.ca
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				Yes it would. The threads would be cut the full length of the taper, not just more threads on the uncut end as a straight die would do. This is an excellent idea and I'll be purchasing dies for my tool box ASAP.
 BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) 
 CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
 101 Caroline Circle
 Hurricane, WV 25526
 www.carbonfibercomposites.net
 304-562-6800 home
 304-395-4932 cell
 
 How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
 --- On Tue, 8/17/10, j. davis <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   From: j. davis <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca>
  Subject: Re: positioning right angle AN fittings
  To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
  Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 8:26 PM
  
  davis" <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca>
  
  On 08/16/2010 04:12 AM, StooDDS(at)aol.com
  wrote:
  > Best way to handle this is to run the male thread of
  the fitting into
  > the appropriate pipe thread die. These are available
  at the hardware
  > store. Screw it in by hand until it is tight, then
  just a little more.
  > Clean the threads and try it. If you use a tap on the
  female threads,
  > the chips are going to fall into the oil
  cooler-----------
  > Stewart Willoughby
  > 6,finishing
  > 
  Hmmm, not sure I understand this. These are tapered pipe
  fittings, are they not? When tight, there are still exposed
  threads. Adding a few more threads with a die wouldn't
  change anything, would it?
  
  -- Regards,  J.
  
  Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
  restoring the Johnston Special
  http://cleco.ca
  
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				If it was my airplane I would not be cutting on any AN fittings!!!!!!
 
 Jerry
 Brian Alley wrote:
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  Yes it would. The threads would be cut the full length of the taper, not just more threads on the uncut end as a straight die would do. This is an excellent idea and I'll be purchasing dies for my tool box ASAP.
  BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) 
  CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
  101 Caroline Circle
  Hurricane, WV 25526
  www.carbonfibercomposites.net
  304-562-6800 home
  304-395-4932 cell
 
  How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
  --- On Tue, 8/17/10, j. davis <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca> wrote:
 
    
 > From: j. davis <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca>
 > Subject: Re: positioning right angle AN fittings
 > To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
 > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 8:26 PM
 > 
 > davis" <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca>
 >
 > On 08/16/2010 04:12 AM, StooDDS(at)aol.com
 > wrote:
 >     
 >> Best way to handle this is to run the male thread of
 >>       
 > the fitting into
 >     
 >> the appropriate pipe thread die. These are available
 >>       
 > at the hardware
 >     
 >> store. Screw it in by hand until it is tight, then
 >>       
 > just a little more.
 >     
 >> Clean the threads and try it. If you use a tap on the
 >>       
 > female threads,
 >     
 >> the chips are going to fall into the oil
 >>       
 > cooler-----------
 >     
 >> Stewart Willoughby
 >> 6,finishing
 >>
 >>       
 > Hmmm, not sure I understand this. These are tapered pipe
 > fittings, are they not? When tight, there are still exposed
 > threads. Adding a few more threads with a die wouldn't
 > change anything, would it?
 >
 > -- Regards,  J.
 >
 > Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
 > restoring the Johnston Special
 > http://cleco.ca
 >
 > +-------------------------------------------------------------+
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 >   | (computer science)       
 >     |
 > | *NIX consulting, SysAdmin   | email: jd at
 > lawsonimaging.ca |
 > +-------------------------------------------------------------+
 > My uncle's an airline pilot... Kinda makes it difficult
 > to hold the bottle though.
 >            
 >     --- Steven Wright
 >
 > Forum -
 > FAQ,
 >    - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:45 am    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				When I'm tightening an angled fitting into a tapered hole, if it's not where it needs to be when it gets tight, I just back it off a little and retighten, and it goes a little further.  Any reason not to do that?
    
  -Rob
  On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)verizon.net (jsflyrv(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
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 If it was my airplane I would not be cutting on any AN fittings!!!!!!
 
 Jerry
 Brian Alley wrote:
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  --> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt(at)yahoo.com (n320wt(at)yahoo.com)>
 
 Yes it would. The threads would be cut the full length of the taper, not just more threads on the uncut end as a straight die would do. This is an excellent idea and I'll be purchasing dies for my tool box ASAP.
  
 
 BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
 101 Caroline Circle
 Hurricane, WV 25526
 www.carbonfibercomposites.net
 304-562-6800 home
  304-395-4932 cell
 
 How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
 --- On Tue, 8/17/10, j. davis <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca (jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca)> wrote:
  
  
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  From: j. davis <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca (jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca)>
 Subject: Re: positioning right angle AN fittings
  To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
 Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 8:26 PM
 --> RV-List message posted by: "j.
 davis" <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca (jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca)>
  
 On 08/16/2010 04:12 AM, StooDDS(at)aol.com (StooDDS(at)aol.com)
 wrote:
    
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  Best way to handle this is to run the male thread of
      
  | 	  the fitting into
    
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  the appropriate pipe thread die. These are available
      
  | 	  at the hardware
    
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  store. Screw it in by hand until it is tight, then
      
  | 	  just a little more.
    
    	  | Quote: | 	 		  Clean the threads and try it. If you use a tap on the
      
  | 	  female threads,
    
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  the chips are going to fall into the oil
      
  | 	  cooler-----------
    
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  Stewart Willoughby
 6,finishing
 
      
  | 	  Hmmm, not sure I understand this. These are tapered pipe
  fittings, are they not? When tight, there are still exposed
 threads. Adding a few more threads with a die wouldn't
 change anything, would it?
 
 -- Regards,  J.
 
 Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
  restoring the Johnston Special
 http://cleco.ca
 
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 lawsonimaging.ca |
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  to hold the bottle though.
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				I guess you're talking about an aluminum fitting .... a steel one won't do that.  Basically you're cold-flowing the aluminum, stretching the threads down towards the small end and fracturing the aluminum below the threads.  Not a good thing.  What you can do, as others have suggested is use a tap or die to cut the threads some so they clock where you want them.  Jerry has a valid concern, but we're not adding a couple of turns here.  The other thing is to use Teflon pipe dope if you can achieve the desired clocking close to 'tight'.   If you use the pipe dope, stabilize the hose or tubing attached to the fitting to keep it from moving.
  Linn
  
  Rob Kochman wrote: [quote]   When I'm tightening an angled fitting into a tapered hole, if it's not where it needs to be when it gets tight, I just back it off a little and retighten, and it goes a little further.  Any reason not to do that?
     
    -Rob
    
    
    On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)verizon.net (jsflyrv(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
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  If it was my airplane I would not be cutting on any AN fittings!!!!!!
      
  Jerry
      
      
  Brian Alley wrote:
       	  | Quote: | 	 		                --> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt(at)yahoo.com (n320wt(at)yahoo.com)>
        
  Yes it would. The threads would be cut the full length of the taper, not just more threads on the uncut end as a straight die would do. This is an excellent idea and I'll be purchasing dies for my tool box ASAP.
        
        
  BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
  101 Caroline Circle
  Hurricane, WV 25526
        www.carbonfibercomposites.net
  304-562-6800 home
  304-395-4932 cell
        
  How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
        
        
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         	  | Quote: | 	 		  From: j. davis <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca (jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca)>
  Subject: Re: positioning right angle AN fittings
  To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
  Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 8:26 PM
  --> RV-List message posted by: "j.
  davis" <jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca (jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca)>
          
  On 08/16/2010 04:12 AM, StooDDS(at)aol.com (StooDDS(at)aol.com)
  wrote:
     
           	  | Quote: | 	 		  Best way to handle this is to run the male thread of
       
           | 	   the fitting into
     
           	  | Quote: | 	 		  the appropriate pipe thread die. These are available
       
           | 	   at the hardware
     
           	  | Quote: | 	 		  store. Screw it in by hand until it is tight, then
       
           | 	   just a little more.
     
           	  | Quote: | 	 		  Clean the threads and try it. If you use a tap on the
       
           | 	   female threads,
     
           	  | Quote: | 	 		  the chips are going to fall into the oil
       
           | 	   cooler-----------
     
           	  | Quote: | 	 		  Stewart Willoughby
  6,finishing
            
       
           | 	   Hmmm, not sure I understand this. These are tapered pipe
  fittings, are they not? When tight, there are still exposed
  threads. Adding a few more threads with a die wouldn't
  change anything, would it?
          
  -- Regards,  J.
          
  Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
  restoring the Johnston Special
          http://cleco.ca
          
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  | *NIX consulting, SysAdmin   | email: jd at
          lawsonimaging.ca |
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  to hold the bottle though.
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:42 am    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				The die simply cuts the threads higher up the fitting and effectively 
 re-indexes the point where the proper tightness points the 90° fitting about 
 where you want it.  Hope this helps. Jerry
 
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:06 am    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				Seems to work on steel fittings, too (just did my oil cooler a couple weeks ago).  Also, by that logic, wouldn't it mean you shouldn't use a fitting more than once (or tighten it down more than once)?
   
  -Rob 
  On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
   	  | Quote: | 	 		   I guess you're talking about an aluminum fitting .... a steel one won't do that.  Basically you're cold-flowing the aluminum, stretching the threads down towards the small end and fracturing the aluminum below the threads.  Not a good thing.  What you can do, as others have suggested is use a tap or die to cut the threads some so they clock where you want them.  Jerry has a valid concern, but we're not adding a couple of turns here.  The other thing is to use Teflon pipe dope if you can achieve the desired clocking close to 'tight'.   If you use the pipe dope, stabilize the hose or tubing attached to the fitting to keep it from moving.
  Linn
 
 Rob Kochman wrote:   	  | Quote: | 	 		    
   When I'm tightening an angled fitting into a tapered hole, if it's not where it needs to be when it gets tight, I just back it off a little and retighten, and it goes a little further.  Any reason not to do that?
    
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  On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)verizon.net (jsflyrv(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
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 If it was my airplane I would not be cutting on any AN fittings!!!!!!
  
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 Yes it would. The threads would be cut the full length of the taper, not just more threads on the uncut end as a straight die would do. This is an excellent idea and I'll be purchasing dies for my tool box ASAP.
  
 
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   	  | Quote: | 	 		  Best way to handle this is to run the male thread of
      
  | 	  the fitting into
     
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  the appropriate pipe thread die. These are available
      
  | 	  at the hardware
     
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  store. Screw it in by hand until it is tight, then
      
  | 	  just a little more.
     
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  Clean the threads and try it. If you use a tap on the
      
  | 	  female threads,
     
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  the chips are going to fall into the oil
      
  | 	  cooler-----------
    
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  | 	  Hmmm, not sure I understand this. These are tapered pipe
  fittings, are they not? When tight, there are still exposed
 threads. Adding a few more threads with a die wouldn't
 change anything, would it?
 
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				I believe the oil cooler is aluminum, and it's those threads that are moving .... but out toward the big end.  Also, I'm talking about over-tightening a couple of times in order to achieve better clocking.  Tapered threads don't need to be installed by that 800 Lb gorilla .... as I've seen done.  Same for B nuts.  ..... no, not beer nuts     .... the nuts on flared fittings.  Some folks think a bigger wrench (or hammer) will solve any problem.
  
  And, one problem with over-tightening tapered fittings ..... such as those on the oil cooler .... the boss may split somewhere down the airway, leaving you oiling up the countryside.  Seen that too.  Done by an IA.  Sheesh.
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  Rob Kochman wrote: [quote]   Seems to work on steel fittings, too (just did my oil cooler a couple weeks ago).  Also, by that logic, wouldn't it mean you shouldn't use a fitting more than once (or tighten it down more than once)?
     
    -Rob 
    
    
    On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
     	  | Quote: | 	 		       I guess you're talking about an aluminum fitting .... a steel one won't do that.  Basically you're cold-flowing the aluminum, stretching the threads down towards the small end and fracturing the aluminum below the threads.  Not a good thing.  What you can do, as others have suggested is use a tap or die to cut the threads some so they clock where you want them.  Jerry has a valid concern, but we're not adding a couple of turns here.  The other thing is to use Teflon pipe dope if you can achieve the desired clocking close to 'tight'.   If you use the pipe dope, stabilize the hose or tubing attached to the fitting to keep it from moving.
  Linn
      
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				Anyone mention just trying a different fitting?? They usally clock to different angles when tightened...
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				 Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:43 am    Post subject: positioning right angle AN fittings | 
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				On 08/18/2010 08:32 PM, fiveonepw(at)aol.com wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Anyone mention just trying a different fitting?  They usally clock to
  different angles when tightened...
  Mark
 
 
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 Just wanted to say 'thanks' to all those taking the time to respond. I ended up using 
 Permatex Form-a-Gasket that I had on my shelf, cleaned each surface well, methyl hydrate, 
 thin coat on each surface, let it set up well, and so far, so good. Remember, my issue was 
 the each fitting was just 20-30 degrees too *far*, so trying to go another 330-340 degrees 
 *tighter* was pretty much out of the question, in my small mind ;')
 
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