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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

I have been trying the GAMI injectors( on the 4th set now) but found the fuel flow on the cylinders varies widely. My cylinder #5 has the richest injector and it still peaks a gallon or more before the other cylinders Before gamis it was 2.5 gallons.. Has any one had this problem? Any solutions?
GAMI does not why the fuel is so unbalanced in this engine. I have 95 hours on the engine and all compressions are good. No intake leaks.
Alan
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

My experience with the GAMI's are a limited range of corrective sizes. As a graduate of Airflow Performance's school in South Carolina, I have a parochial bias as to their techniques and the diverse range of injector ports for the Lycoming 540 product line. It goes as afar as believing they are even superior to Brand A used by that fine Canadian rebuilder of such deep respect with this group.

I feel GAMI is an excellent choice for aircraft with Continental propulsion products. Beech, Cirrus, and Oh forbid - Lancair International (plastic planes).

I will get off the soapbox cause I use, repair and maintain Lycomings in RVs and on the M-14Ps with single point fuel bodies. Bendix/Precision is fine for its purpose.

Oh yeh, Fuel Injection for the Rotax found in RV-12s too. Did the Rotax training in Canada.


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I have been trying the GAMI injectors( on the 4th set now) but found the fuel flow on the cylinders varies widely. My cylinder #5 has the richest injector and it still peaks a gallon or more before the other cylinders Before gamis it was 2.5 gallons.. Has any one had this problem? Any solutions?
GAMI does not why the fuel is so unbalanced in this engine. I have 95 hours on the engine and all compressions are good. No intake leaks.
Alan
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Most likely cause is the location of your fuel flow sending unit, as
Robin just noted. Fuel flow that peaks 1 gph different between
cylinders would not run worth a damn. I am assuming that is not the
case because you didn't mention any issues with how the engine ran.
So I seriously question the validity of your fuel flow data. Lycomings
generally are within 0.6 gph with stock injectors. But GAMI cannot
correct for inaccurate FF readings relative to peak egts.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Alan Mekler <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:
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I have been trying the GAMI injectors( on the 4th set now)  but found the
fuel flow on  the cylinders varies widely. My cylinder #5 has the richest
injector and it still peaks a gallon or more before the other cylinders
Before gamis it was 2.5 gallons.. Has any one had this problem? Any
solutions?

GAMI does not why the fuel is so unbalanced in this engine. I have 95 hours
on the engine and all compressions are good. No intake leaks.

Alan

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:42 am    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

One other possible cause is ignition, IF you have the stock Slick
magnetos. Slick magnetos generally work okay, but some have wildly
inaccurate firing between cylinders. I know of one turbocharged
TIO-540 that was balanced perfectly and ran fine LOP until one of the
mags was overhauled. After that it simply would not run LOP, was too
rough.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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Most likely cause is the location of your fuel flow sending unit, as
Robin just noted. Fuel flow that peaks 1 gph different between
cylinders would not run worth a damn. I am assuming that is not the
case because you didn't mention any issues with how the engine ran.
So I seriously question the validity of your fuel flow data. Lycomings
generally are within 0.6 gph with stock injectors. But GAMI cannot
correct for inaccurate FF readings relative to peak egts.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Alan Mekler <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:
> I have been trying the GAMI injectors( on the 4th set now)  but found the
> fuel flow on  the cylinders varies widely. My cylinder #5 has the richest
> injector and it still peaks a gallon or more before the other cylinders
> Before gamis it was 2.5 gallons.. Has any one had this problem? Any
> solutions?
>
> GAMI does not why the fuel is so unbalanced in this engine. I have 95 hours
> on the engine and all compressions are good. No intake leaks.
>
> Alan
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

? Have you done the coke bottle check? Has anyone messed with the lines from the spider to injectors? Are we sure the lines are the right ones? The other thing have you had any problems with your EGT system. Could your EGT probes be bad?
Peaking or not peaking where they should?
Just a few thoughts
Patrick Thyssen

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Subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 11:04 AM


I have been trying the GAMI injectors( on the 4th set now) but found the fuel flow on the cylinders varies widely. My cylinder #5 has the richest injector and it still peaks a gallon or more before the other cylinders Before gamis it was 2.5 gallons.. Has any one had this problem? Any solutions?
GAMI does not why the fuel is so unbalanced in this engine. I have 95 hours on the engine and all compressions are good. No intake leaks.
Alan
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

I second the last post. Do easy things first. Do the "coke bottle test" to be sure the "richest injector" cylinder really does get more gas than the others.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Patrick,
Before switching to the GAMIs my cylinder #5 peaked at 2.5 gallons l than my richest cylinder #3. After changing to GAMIs (my 3rd set) I’m down to a 1 gallon spread. GAMI has given me the richest injector they make for cylinder # 5 but it still peaks early.
Here is my latest flight data flying at 7000 MSL 22 inches/ 2400 rpm.
Alan
13 12.5 12.1 11.7 11.3 11.0 10.5 10.3 Fuel flow gal/hr
1420 1438 1468 1474 1453 1438 1422 1403 cylinder #1
1381 1398 1428 1452 1447 1437 1412 1373 cylinder #2
1393 1409 1438 1456 1473 1468 1448 1414 cylinder #3
1400 1417 1449 1468 1477 1470 1450 1414 cylinder #4
1434 1467 1469 1443 1415 1411 1400 1435 cylinder # 5
1410 1430 1463 1474 1458 1441 1420 1397 cylinder #6

other method
cylinder #1 1472 peak (at) 11.5
cylinder #2 1451 peak(at) 11.2
cylinder #3 1472 peak (at) 11.1
cylinder#4 1477 peak (at) 11.2
cylinder #5 1473 peak (at) 12.1
cylinder #6 1474 peak (at) 11.5




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? Have you done the coke bottle check? Has anyone messed with the lines from the spider to injectors? Are we sure the lines are the right ones? The other thing have you had any problems with your EGT system. Could your EGT probes be bad?
Peaking or not peaking where they should?
Just a few thoughts
Patrick Thyssen

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From: Alan Mekler <amekler(at)metrocast.net>
Subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 11:04 AM
I have been trying the GAMI injectors( on the 4th set now) but found the fuel flow on the cylinders varies widely. My cylinder #5 has the richest injector and it still peaks a gallon or more before the other cylinders Before gamis it was 2.5 gallons.. Has any one had this problem? Any solutions?
GAMI does not why the fuel is so unbalanced in this engine. I have 95 hours on the engine and all compressions are good. No intake leaks.
Alan
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Perhaps you are working on the wrong end of the problem. #3&4 are
peaking last, so must be too rich. The rest of the cylinders are peaking
within 0.4gph of #5. You also will need to gather measurements every 0.2
gph to better detect the peaks once you get those two cylinders closer
to the rest.

On 8/21/2010 3:59 PM, Alan Mekler wrote:
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Patrick,

Before switching to the GAMIs my cylinder #5 peaked at 2.5 gallons l
than my richest cylinder #3. After changing to GAMIs (my 3^rd set) I’m
down to a 1 gallon spread. GAMI has given me the richest injector they
make for cylinder # 5 but it still peaks early.

Here is my latest flight data flying at 7000 MSL 22 inches/ 2400 rpm.

Alan

13 12.5 12.1 11.7 11.3 11.0 10.5 10.3 Fuel flow gal/hr

1420 1438 1468 1474 1453 1438 1422 1403 cylinder #1

1381 1398 1428 1452 1447 1437 1412 1373 cylinder #2

1393 1409 1438 1456 1473 1468 1448 1414 cylinder #3

1400 1417 1449 1468 1477 1470 1450 1414 cylinder #4

1434 1467 1469 1443 1415 1411 1400 1435 cylinder # 5

1410 1430 1463 1474 1458 1441 1420 1397 cylinder #6

other method

cylinder #1 1472 peak (at) 11.5

cylinder #2 1451 peak(at) 11.2

cylinder #3 1472 peak (at) 11.1

cylinder#4 1477 peak (at) 11.2

cylinder #5 1473 peak (at) 12.1

cylinder #6 1474 peak (at) 11.5

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? Have you done the coke bottle check? Has anyone messed with the
lines from the spider to injectors? Are we sure the lines are the
right ones? The other thing have you had any problems with your EGT
system. Could your EGT probes be bad?
Peaking or not peaking where they should?
Just a few thoughts
Patrick Thyssen

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From: Alan Mekler <amekler(at)metrocast.net>
Subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 11:04 AM

I have been trying the GAMI injectors( on the 4^th set now) but found
the fuel flow on the cylinders varies widely. My cylinder #5 has the
richest injector and it still peaks a gallon or more before the other
cylinders Before gamis it was 2.5 gallons.. Has any one had this
problem? Any solutions?

GAMI does not why the fuel is so unbalanced in this engine. I have 95
hours on the engine and all compressions are good. No intake leaks.

Alan

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Patrick,
I agree. I'll be talking to GAMI on Monday.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:19 am    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

My fuel flow stays very steady. Usually doesn't move more than 0.1
gallons/hr after taking about 30 seconds to settele down. Engine runs fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:41 am    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Kelly,
I just looked at my injectors cylinder 3 and 4 have the leanest
injectors(GAMI A) while cylinder 5 has the richest injector (Gami J plus)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:13 am    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Flo Scan tech support told me "Do not install the sensor between two fuel
pumps or erratic and unreliable readings may occour."

Before the pumps and even the valve is best they said, but after the pumps
would be fine. Just leave several inches of straight or gentley curved hose
before and after the sensor.

However this was in reference to marine applications as they no longer
support aviation applications.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:23 am    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Sorry I meant to reply that to Robins thread.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:49 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

About the only thing left is your dry tappet clearances. Your engine
builder should be able to give you what those clearances are. Ideally
the clearances are in the middle of the allowable range and similar for
each
cylinder.................................................................................
Alternatively you could measure the amount of movement of each rocker
arm. Intakes should be the same and exhausts the same. Has anyone looked
inside your sump/intake manifold to ensure there is no obstruction, nor
anything loose in there? Something is wrong if your #3&4 peak last with
the leanest nozzles and #5 peaks first with the richest nozzle.
Still not understanding how the engine could be running smoothly with
that wide a difference in mixtures between cylinders.

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I just looked at my injectors cylinder 3 and 4 have the leanest
injectors(GAMI A) while cylinder 5 has the richest injector (Gami J plus)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

HAVE YOU DONE THE COKE BOTTLE TEST WITHOUT  THE INJECTORS. SINCE EACH INJECTOR WILL BE DIFFERENT NOW. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR PROBES? Maybe swap a few probes and see what you get.
Patrick Thyssen

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From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
Subject: Re: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 3:46 PM

--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <[url=/mc/compose?to=kellym(at)aviating.com]kellym(at)aviating.com[/url]>
About the only thing left is your dry tappet clearances. Your engine
builder should be able to give you what those clearances are. Ideally
the clearances are in the middle of the allowable range and similar for
each
cylinder................................................................................
Alternatively you could measure the amount of movement of each rocker
arm. Intakes should be the same and exhausts the same. Has anyone looked
inside your sump/intake manifold to ensure there is no obstruction, nor
anything loose in there? Something is wrong if your #3&4 peak last with
the leanest nozzles and #5 peaks first with the richest nozzle.
Still not understanding how the engine could be running smoothly with
that wide a difference in mixtures between cylinders.

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Kelly,
I just looked at my injectors cylinder 3 and 4 have the leanest
injectors(GAMI A) while cylinder 5 has the richest injector (Gami J plus)
Alan

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Patrick,
Give me the details of the coke bottle test. I’m going to try switching probes.
The odd thing is the engine runs smooth.
Alan


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Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:53 PM
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HAVE YOU DONE THE COKE BOTTLE TEST WITHOUT THE INJECTORS. SINCE EACH INJECTOR WILL BE DIFFERENT NOW. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR PROBES? Maybe swap a few probes and see what you get.
Patrick Thyssen

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From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
Subject: Re: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 3:46 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>


About the only thing left is your dry tappet clearances. Your engine
builder should be able to give you what those clearances are. Ideally
the clearances are in the middle of the allowable range and similar for
each
cylinder................................................................................
Alternatively you could measure the amount of movement of each rocker
arm. Intakes should be the same and exhausts the same. Has anyone looked
inside your sump/intake manifold to ensure there is no obstruction, nor
anything loose in there? Something is wrong if your #3&4 peak last with
the leanest nozzles and #5 peaks first with the richest nozzle.
Still not understanding how the engine could be running smoothly with
that wide a difference in mixtures between cylinders.

On 8/22/2010 7:40 AM, Alan Mekler wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Alan Mekler"<amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net)>
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> Kelly,
> I just looked at my injectors cylinder 3 and 4 have the leanest
> injectors(GAMI A) while cylinder 5 has the richest injector (Gami J plus)
> Alan
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

I'm going to talk to Mattituck tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Simple, but I don't think it will show anything if the engine is
running smoothly. You don't say if it runs smoothly LOP.
Coke bottle, or baby food jar test.....six bottles, disconnect each
injector fuel line, and carefully(minimal or no bending) place each one
in bottle. Place mixture full rich, turn on boost pump and observe flow.
Shut off before any bottle fills. Compare the volume in each bottle.
Remove injectors and carefully install on each fuel line, repeat bottle
test observing spray pattern from each injector. Should be uniform spray
from each one.
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Patrick,

Give me the details of the coke bottle test. I’m going to try
switching probes.

The odd thing is the engine runs smooth.

Alan

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*Subject:* Re: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors

HAVE YOU DONE THE COKE BOTTLE TEST WITHOUT THE INJECTORS. SINCE EACH
INJECTOR WILL BE DIFFERENT NOW. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR PROBES? Maybe
swap a few probes and see what you get.
Patrick Thyssen

--- On *Sun, 8/22/10, Kelly McMullen /<kellym(at)aviating.com>/* wrote:
From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
Subject: Re: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 3:46 PM


</mc/compose?to=kellym(at)aviating.com>>
About the only thing left is your dry tappet clearances. Your engine
builder should be able to give you what those clearances are. Ideally
the clearances are in the middle of the allowable range and similar for
each
cylinder.................................................................................

Alternatively you could measure the amount of movement of each rocker
arm. Intakes should be the same and exhausts the same. Has anyone looked
inside your sump/intake manifold to ensure there is no obstruction, nor
anything loose in there? Something is wrong if your #3&4 peak last with
the leanest nozzles and #5 peaks first with the richest nozzle.
Still not understanding how the engine could be running smoothly with
that wide a difference in mixtures between cylinders.

On 8/22/2010 7:40 AM, Alan Mekler wrote:
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</mc/compose?to=amekler(at)metrocast.net>>
>
> Kelly,
> I just looked at my injectors cylinder 3 and 4 have the leanest
> injectors(GAMI A) while cylinder 5 has the richest injector (Gami J plus)
> Alan
>
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

That's why you need to know the probes are OK. They may be giving you a wrong signal. The coke bottle test is, undo your injector lines from the injectors, put the same size glass bottle under them and turn on your boost pump, fill bottle about 3/4 and see if the same amount of fuel is in all the glass bottles. Normally you do it with your injectors on but since you have different injectors it won't work that way.
Just my way of checking.
Patrick Thyssen
Have you done the SB on the throttle body. The gasket and G on plug. I just checked another RV10 and he had not done it and it was loose.
--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Alan Mekler <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:
[quote]
From: Alan Mekler <amekler(at)metrocast.net>
Subject: RE: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 6:00 PM


Patrick,
Give me the details of the coke bottle test. I’m going to try switching probes.
The odd thing is the engine runs smooth.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Thyssen
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:53 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors


HAVE YOU DONE THE COKE BOTTLE TEST WITHOUT THE INJECTORS. SINCE EACH INJECTOR WILL BE DIFFERENT NOW. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR PROBES? Maybe swap a few probes and see what you get.
Patrick Thyssen

--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 3:46 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>


About the only thing left is your dry tappet clearances. Your engine
builder should be able to give you what those clearances are. Ideally
the clearances are in the middle of the allowable range and similar for
each
cylinder................................................................................
Alternatively you could measure the amount of movement of each rocker
arm. Intakes should be the same and exhausts the same. Has anyone looked
inside your sump/intake manifold to ensure there is no obstruction, nor
anything loose in there? Something is wrong if your #3&4 peak last with
the leanest nozzles and #5 peaks first with the richest nozzle.
Still not understanding how the engine could be running smoothly with
that wide a difference in mixtures between cylinders.

On 8/22/2010 7:40 AM, Alan Mekler wrote:
> -->  RV10-List message posted by: "Alan Mekler"<amekler(at)metrocast.net>
>
> Kelly,
> I just looked at my injectors cylinder 3 and 4 have the leanest
> injectors(GAMI A) while cylinder 5 has the richest injector (Gami J plus)
> Alan
>
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: TMXIO-540 and GAMI injectors Reply with quote

Sounds simple enough. I have the precision silver hawk ex fuel injection
system.
Alan
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