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dlm34077
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 Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject: reliability |
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Just started to look at additional things to do that improve reliability.
A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700 hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to my parts kit.
I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay, several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps, electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have continuing airworthiness data.
N46007 at 310TT
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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: reliability |
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A couple more:
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can get the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it off makes life easier when on the road.
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the prop to replace it.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (550 hrs)
RV-10 (system install)
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: reliability
Just started to look at additional things to do that improve reliability.
A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700 hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to my parts kit.
I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay, several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps, electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have continuing airworthiness data.
N46007 at 310TT
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Kellym
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: reliability |
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RV specific parts would be the main thing. If the alternator belt is a
standard Lycoming part (likely) any FBO will have or can get it from the
nearest National Aviation Parts Alternative (NAPA) store. Most of your
engine compartment stuff is either going to be stock Lycoming, or
homebuilt specific, so keep that in mind for spares. Starter and master
relays that Vans supplies are stock Cessna parts. Spark plugs will
depend on whether you have aviation plugs (18mm) or auto plugs (14mm).
All are considerations for choosing which parts to use in the first
place...will a failure leave you AOG, or is a spare easy and cheap to carry.
On 8/24/2010 3:21 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
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A couple more:
- Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can get
the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it off
makes life easier when on the road.
- Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the prop to
replace it.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (550 hrs)
RV-10 (system install)
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*Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* reliability
Just started to look at additional things to do that improve reliability.
A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for
about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700
hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush
assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes
the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to
my parts kit.
I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay,
several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains
, in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps,
electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
(insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
continuing airworthiness data.
N46007 at 310TT
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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: reliability |
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I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt belt to the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
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pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject: reliability |
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I can verify the need for a spare fuel cap. I broke the pin on one cap of my RV-4 when doing my preflight inspection before making an important trip. Of course it was a weekend and no parts were available. Fortunately the caps in the RV-10 wing kit were the same and a quick trip home to rob my RV-10 (it will be a long time before it needs fuel caps except to keep dust out of the tanks) and I was on my way.
Jack Phillips
#40610 (wings)
Raleigh, NC
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:16 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: reliability
I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt belt to the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: reliability |
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In order to install a newly purchased belt, you have to remove the prop along with the cowl. Terribly time consuming even if you have the tools handy. The belts typically will last for years if aligned and tensioned properly. A spare, weathered belt is still better than nothing if you're AOG on a late Sunday afternoon .......
Linn
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From: Carl Froehlich (carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: reliability
A couple more:
- Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can get the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it off makes life easier when on the road.
- Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the prop to replace it.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (550 hrs)
RV-10 (system install)
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: reliability
Just started to look at additional things to do that improve reliability.
A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700 hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to my parts kit.
I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay, several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps, electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have continuing airworthiness data.
N46007 at 310TT
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: reliability |
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I sealed my spare belt with a food vacuum sealer. Kept out of
the light I'd think it would outlast my emergency need for a belt.
When I want to replace mine for maintenance, I'll go buy a new
fresh one...this sealed one can stay as a spare.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/24/2010 8:15 PM, DLM wrote:
[quote] I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt belt to
the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
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ricksked(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: reliability |
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I know this will get some kinda kinky response but.... Keep a pair of
pantyhose onboard... You can fabricate a very reliable belt by cutting
off a leg, stretching it tight and tying. I ran my 1971 Maverick for
500 miles in 1980 in the middle of nowwhere driving from NJ to Las
Vegas. I heard of doing this on a radio show and for two bucks I
bought a Leggs egg in my favorite color "Midnight black" and tossed it
the trunk. Sure enough in good ol Arkansas my belt let go. It worked
great until I reached a "real town" without white haired pink eyed
residents where I bought a real belt. Now some would say why not buy a
spare belt? Anyone ever been 18 and just out of tech school as a E-2
Airmen knows why!! Belts are expensive when you only make $526 a month!!
Rick
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On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
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I sealed my spare belt with a food vacuum sealer. Kept out of
the light I'd think it would outlast my emergency need for a belt.
When I want to replace mine for maintenance, I'll go buy a new
fresh one...this sealed one can stay as a spare.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/24/2010 8:15 PM, DLM wrote:
> I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
> handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt
> belt to
> the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
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bruceklas(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: reliability |
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rv10builder(at)ericksonjc
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: reliability |
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Rick,
It's ok to tell all the folks here that you do, in fact, wear the "socks"...
Not my thing, but who am I to judge?
John
40208 Wings... (wishing it was flying like Ricks bird...)
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jdriggs49(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:05 am Post subject: reliability |
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"I ran my 1971 Maverick for
500 miles in 1980 in the middle of nowwhere driving from NJ to Las
Vegas."
That's okay. "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas"!! 
[quote] From: ricksked(at)cox.net
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: reliability
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:36:23 -0700
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked(at)cox.net>
I know this will get some kinda kinky response but.... Keep a pair of
pantyhose onboard... You can fabricate a very reliable belt by cutting
off a leg, stretching it tight and tying. I ran my 1971 Maverick for
500 miles in 1980 in the middle of nowwhere driving from NJ to Las
Vegas. I heard of doing this on a radio show and for two bucks I
bought a Leggs egg in my favorite color "Midnight black" and tossed it
the trunk. Sure enough in good ol Arkansas my belt let go. It worked
great until I reached a "real town" without white haired pink eyed
residents where I bought a real belt. Now some would say why not buy a
spare belt? Anyone ever been 18 and just out of tech school as a E-2
Airmen knows why!! Belts are expensive when you only make $526 a month!!
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>
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> I sealed my spare belt with a food vacuum sealer. Kept out of
> the light I'd think it would outlast my emergency need for a belt.
> When I want to replace mine for maintenance, I'll go buy a new
> fresh one...this sealed one can stay as a spare.
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> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
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> On 8/24/2010 8:15 PM, DLM wrote:
>> I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
>> handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt
>> belt to
>> the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
>>
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roxianmike(at)msn.com
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But Rick, won't your legs get cold?
[quote] From: ricksked(at)cox.net
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: reliability
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:36:23 -0700
I know this will get some kinda kinky response but.... Keep a pair of
pantyhose onboard... You can fabricate a very reliable belt by cutting
off a leg, stretching it tight and tying. I ran my 1971 Maverick for
500 miles in 1980 in the middle of nowwhere driving from NJ to Las
Vegas. I heard of doing this on a radio show and for two bucks I
bought a Leggs egg in my favorite color "Midnight black" and tossed it
the trunk. Sure enough in good ol Arkansas my belt let go. It worked
great until I reached a "real town" without white haired pink eyed
residents where I bought a real belt. Now some would say why not buy a
spare belt? Anyone ever been 18 and just out of tech school as a E-2
Airmen knows why!! Belts are expensive when you only make $526 a month!!
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
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> I sealed my spare belt with a food vacuum sealer. Kept out of
> the light I'd think it would outlast my emergency need for a belt.
> When I want to replace mine for maintenance, I'll go buy a new
> fresh one...this sealed one can stay as a spare.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 8/24/2010 8:15 PM, DLM wrote:
>> I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
>> handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt
>> belt to
>> the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
>>
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